Talk:Roll-on/roll-off

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[edit] open decks

I commented out the reference to large open vehicle deck as none of the three named disaster ships had an open deck, and, based on personal experience around the Uk and Scandinavia, I believe that large ocean-going ferries don't have open vehicle decks. Open decked ro-ros seem only to exist as smaller vessels used on short sea-going routes.--JBellis 14:14, 30 October 2005 (UTC)

The vehicle decks I have seen run the entire length of the ship starting from the the level that is seen where the gangway is upwards (in the picture). Every third deck or so is air-tight to help prevent the spread of fires. The decks below the gang way have vertical subdivisions along them for flooding purposes. --Malarky, 31 October 2005

[edit] landing ships

Would the Landing_Ship_Tank of WWII count as an RORO, possibly the first? If not, when were ROROs first made? Identity0 19:39, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Al salam 98

This article claims to know the cause of the sinking of al Salam 98. This ferry sank only days ago, they are still finding survivors, it is not yet known what caused its sinking. It may well have been flooding of the vehicle deck however that is not yet proven. Mention of the cause for the ships sinking should be withdrawn until a clearer picture of events comes to light. Leave it to the investigators. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 211.28.45.101 (talk • contribs) 09:36, 4 February 2006

[edit] First Ro-Ro

Surely they existed before the 1950's. [1] says the first was in 1848 at Burntisland in Scotland - for railway carriages.--JBellis 21:22, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cougar Ace

Cougar Ace just had its crew of 23 rescued off the coast of Alaska. Was this another free surface effect issue? --Gbleem 12:30, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Apparently not; reports are now saying the severe list occurred during a ballast readjustment. Note, too, that it has not sunk or even fully capsized. —Steve Summit (talk) 13:03, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] accident list

I've removed the list of accidents in the "Risks" section as it was POV and unmaintainable. (For now, the content is at List of RORO vessel accidents.)

Presumably someone added this list (with its death counts for each accident) to prove how unsafe a RORO vessel is, but the statistic is meaningless unless it can be compared to accidents for non-RORO ships (and for RORO ships which had accidents due to causes other than the RORO design). Also, the presence of the list is an open invitation for anyone to add mention of any accident that happened to any RORO ship anywhere, for reasons having nothing to do with the RORO design. (The sinking of the Queen of the North in 2006, for example, was an ordinary accident in which the ship struck rocks due to a navigational error. There's evidently also controversy -- or at any rate a minor edit war here -- over the cause of the sinking of the al-Salam Boccaccio 98.)

—Steve Summit (talk) 13:32, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

That risks section is written by someone who has never been on a Ro/Ro - Pure Car Carrier, I should pull out the trim and stability manual and explain it. Also the use of Pure Car Carriers is really title only, I was on one PCC that carried Abrams main battle tanks, artillery, trucks, aircraft, trailers, pallets. It kind of makes it pointless to change everything on the page to PCC since it isn't even correct, I would call it by the industry name of just Ro/Ro. As for images of a Ro/Ro-Container ship, you can look into the LMSR (Large Medium Speed Ro/Ro) Military Sealift Command Ships, they are near 1000ft long and very nice gas turbine ships. --Malarky, 11:35 13 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Title

is this the correct title? shouldn't the second word of each phrase be lower case? i.e."Roll on/Roll off"? Bonus Onus 07:09, 26 December 2006 (UTC)