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[edit] Clownman and Astroman

Okay, listen up, I'm getting sick of editing this back, now listen well:

CIRCUSMAN AND COLOREDMAN ARE NOT CLOWNMAN'S NAVI COUNTERPARTS. PLANETMAN IS NOT ASTROMAN'S NAVI COUNTERPART.

They never have been and they never will be, stop changing it. -Sukecchi 14:19, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Really... Capcom hasn't said anytihng on that subject. BassxForte 22:25, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

There's nothing to say; they aren't their navi counterparts. It's the same thing as everyone thinking Thunderman was Cloud Man. Which he wasn't. If they were. their names would be Clownman.exe and Astroman.exe. Besides, Circusman was a Contest Navi. Also, you're responding to a comment I made a year ago. -Sukecchi 22:36, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

I really don't care if it was made a year ago. Furthermore, if just the name change means they can't be the BN series counterpart, then I guess Treble don't got a counterpart, the poor thing. BassxForte 22:45, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

No, Gospel is a different case, his Japanese name is Gosepl. Coloredman, Circusman, and Planetman are their English AND Japanese names. -Sukecchi 00:08, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

I know, it was sarcasm. I'm just saying that Capcom hasn't said anything on this, and they have the final word. BassxForte 17:49, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Robot Master definition

"...Robot Master (AKA "Super Robot") is a special kind of robot or android that possesses a very advanced level of artificial intelligence." A Robot Master and a Super robot are two completely different things in Megaman canon. This description applies to Super Robots only. Robot Masters were built by Dr. Light to control many other robots for industrial purposes, and the name was carried over as the Masters of Wily's armies in subsequent games. Megaman, Roll and Protoman are said to be Robot Masters here; this is not only original research and totally sourceless, but contradictory to the definition.

[edit] Metal Man

Quick discussion on this. Metal Man section says that he developed a weakness to Mega Man's Mega Buster. The Only diffrence I see when it comes to attacking Metal Man is that he his is able to be hit faster then other Robot Masters in Mega Man 2. The Damage is practicaly the same, only the rate of the attacking it. link25

Gameplay devices are not canon (sounds strange, doesn't it? but it's true - why does X lose his armor every game, why does Rock lose his weapon data every game..). According to Metalman's profiles in sourcebooks, instruction manuals, and even the R&F CDDB, he's weak to the Rock Buster. --Boco XLVII 05:49, 10 Feb 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Name of Attacks

While I do aplaud using the Rockman and Fort data base as way to refrence the robotot masters. I do think that name of attacks should be classified as well.

Who's using the R&F CDDB? I mean, sure, it's a nice source of information but it hasn't infleunced the article much.
Eventually I would like each Robot master to have its own page, which would include a full history, list of appearances, explanations of weapons & weaknesses, etc. Listing the weapons each RM has here would be problematic because not all RMs have weapons and some have multiple weapons. --Boco XLVII 06:50, 30 Jan 2005 (UTC)

I highly agree with the own page thing. Gutsman got his own page, so what about Iceman, Snakeman,and all the rest! --User:Claycrow

I can easliy do some research on such things, it's not like it's going to be hard to find. As for some of the names of attacks. But even if all attacks are not noted, the one that megaman gains should at least be noted. link25 2:19 ,30 2005
Like I mentioned above, not all RMs have (copyable) weapons (example: the MWN series), and some have multiple (copyable) weapons (example: Centaurman). But feel free to add anythign you want to the page, of course. --Boco XLVII 15:20, 30 Jan 2005 (UTC)

[edit] DCN numbers

THis should be added since Dr.WIly had nothing in the programing or constrution of these at all. DR.Cossack should be given reconigtion for this since he did all the work not wily. BUt wily numbers should still be in there becaus he still had control over Dr.Cossack and therefore control over the robot masters. TO make it fair I believe that Dr.Cossack and WIly should be take the credit for it.

Each of the DCN Robot Masters (those being 025-032) was indeed designed by Dr. Cossack, but they were then modified by Dr. Wily. I usually call them DCN, but the games call them DWN (at least, they do in Rockman & Forte's CD Database - in the actual ending to Rockman 4 they are just "No. 25" etc). At any rate, the explanatory note is needed. Thanks. --Boco XLVII 21:56, 25 Jan 2005 (UTC)

What about the robots from Megaman 6? They also where not made by Dr. Wily, they came from different places of the world and have different unknown creators. Wily take the credits of the others creations just because he reprogramed them? --17:11, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

Well who else is going to take the credit if the creators are unknown? - Robo102

[edit] Vfd

I'm planning on vfding this article if my recent deletion nomination gets deleted. Anyone here wanna help me look for more gamecrufty articles to nominate for deletion? Navid 02:24, 9 Apr 2005 (UTC)

On April 9, 2005, this article was nominated for deletion. The result was keep. See Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Robot Master for a record of the discussion. —Korath (Talk) 03:20, Apr 15, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Robot Master vs. robot master

Why is the second word in the phrase "Robot Master" capitalized? "Robot master" should not be a proper noun, in my opinion. Any thoughs on this? Andre (talk) 00:29, May 28, 2005 (UTC)

Instruction manual tradition? :P - Gilgamesh 11:58, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
It's not a "master of robots" or a "robotic master", it's a "Robot Master", a specific kind of robot which has a unique AI. --Boco XLVII 16:48, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
I thought it was a robotic master. Hm. Andre (talk) 21:47, May 30, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Oil Man and Time Man

Two new Robot Masters named Oil Man and Time Man are going to be featured in Mega Man Powered Up for the PSP. Little is known about them right now. You can see them by going to the official Japanese site, clicking on the red button, and pressing the green arrow on the bottom right corner. The text boxes possibly describing them are in Japanese, but their names are both in Japanese and English. Should we wait until the game comes out so that we know more about them (like the weapons and serial numbers)?

Also, I'd like to add to the Mega Man III PC subsection by stating that the non-canon Wave Man and Oil Man should not be confused with their respected canon counterparts. - NES Boy


I ageree with you on this. We should make a note about the oil man from capcom and the oil man from third parties. As well as other robots that have the same names. Link25


Agreement here too. Wow, the official page says they are Keiji Inafune's designs... Better not letting them know about the coincidence. I will try to start making reference to that. Polobird 08:52, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

Soild details of them added for now. ~ Polobird 21:35, 3 February 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Wind Man's "nationality"

Eh... The RMs in MM6 are build with themes from different cultures, of course. Yet, Wind Man's seems not to be obvious as others like Yamato Man. I don't own the official instruction booklet or strategy guides so I am likely not having strong evidence.

Now we have three versions: Holland, China (suggested by me) and German (current version). There is no reason Wind Man is becoming "international". So firstly, is that an evidence? Secondly, what would the true answer be?

Here is a fan RM database suggesting what I suggest too. It's not my reference or evidence. I just determine from the "square spiral" pattern decorations from Wind Man's stage and on himself. Polobird 08:52, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

I've heard it suggested as follows:
  • Yamato Man: Japan
  • Wind Man: China (look at the architecture and the panda-bots)
  • Centaur Man: Greece (not only did the Greeks come up with the centaur, Centaur Man's stage is also reminiscent of Atlantis)
  • Tomahawk Man: USA (Native American theme, desert with mesas and cacti and sun in background)
  • Knight Man: England or Germany (think back to Medieval times and their warring countries)
  • Flame Man: some Middle Eastern country, such as Saudi Arabia (he comes complete with turban, too)
  • Plant Man: here's a questionable one--usually cited is something like Brazil, for its forests
  • Blizzard Man: this one's even more questionable; usually cited is something like Canada, or even Greenland or Antarctica
~GMH talk to me 02:51, 2 January 2006 (UTC)


The instruction book and several other official sources state that WindMan was created in China. His stage design and the panda enemies in the stage back this claim almost 100%.
~ Forte X

[edit] Images!

Article needs images! 201.0.114.205 20:51, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, we should really get pics for Time Man and Oil Man. Not to mention everyone from MM2.

Images for the MM2 Robot Masters and the Rockman Killer Series can be found here. http://www.sprites-inc.co.uk/files/Classic/RNF/Cds/index.php But no Time Man/Oil Man, sorry. - Robo102

The pictures are now gone, for those of you who are wondering. Superjustinbros. (talk) 19:04, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Super Adventure Rockman

Aw... It's been years ago I played that game. My finger pressed the button faster than an automatic consecutive trigger control pad...

Anyway, for the final two bosses' name. Well... One is the android one collaboratively built by Dr. Wily and the eviler character. Another one the latter built to rebel Wily, is just like, again, Yellow Devil.

Ok, concerning the fact that this game is only published in Japan. There is not likely that it is called "Sarratont", instead he should be "La Tor" or "Ra Tor". The second Devil-like one is "La Devil" or "Ra Devil" (but is labelled as "???" in enemies' data in the game, this I remember). The mastermind other than Wily, the alien meteor that drives people evil, is called "La Moon" or "Ra Moon". Ok, it's your choices now, again for the Japanese ambiguous pronunciation for the "L" and "R" sounds for the kazillionth time.

Believe me, I have no chance in whatever that I remeber thses names. But it is listed in this fan registry. Of course I do not have the ability to prove that it is 100% true as truths, but its comprehensiveness and completeness are convincing, if you agree. ^_^;;;; ~ Polobird 11:37, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

The Devil character is called the "Shin Yellow Devil", according to one of the sourcebooks. - NES Boy 01:04, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Rockman Rockman 2

Where exactly was a Rockman Rockman 2 announced? Because as far as I know, there has been no announcement of it. Sukecchi 01:21, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

Well, you see, in an editorial on Mega Man Nework explaining the absence of requested content for Mega Man X Collect had a paragraph begin as such: "What we've been told is that Inafune wants to retool the X series up to Mega Man X6. Irregular Hunter X2 is already on the books, we're told, and Rockman Rockman 2 is in the pre-planning stages (incidentally, we were told that if the Powered Up ports are successful, they might be remade all the way up to Mega Man 8)." So yes, they're planning to make a sequel to Rockman Rockman. - NES Boy 22:11, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
Ah, alrighty. Just wanted to see something backing it up. XDSukecchi 02:54, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Create Pages for Robot Masters

Like Air Man&Guts Man it is fair that the other Robot Masters get pages. Work on them with Infoboxes!

I think that at least the Robot Masters from DRN series showd have a page, and it could be divided with:
  • Description
  • History, personality
  • Differences with ____.EXE
  • Appearances, abilities, weapons, stages, games it appeared, trivia, ...
  • See Also (here)
  • links, cat, ...

--20:05, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

Both of those pages link to the Robot Master article. And a search for Air Man brings you back to the R.M. article.Sukecchi 20:15, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

I believe this guy hates Guts Man. The DRN series (except Bomb Man), are main characters and they showd have they own page. --16:52, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

I strongly agree with the every robot master page. Dispite the only "main character" robot masters are the ones from the first game, I think all robot masters should have that kind of respect. Even the ones from Megaman and Bass. (And maybe even Rockman and Forte 2). What do you guys think? Sadly, I am relitivly new, and I don't know how to make an entire article well, (How in the world do make a picture show up)so I'll go practice and such and hope get a robot master article up. (Probably Topman becuase I like him the best.) July 28 --User:Claycrow

I completely agree with you, and best of luck. Thanos6 17:46, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

I would aggree, but they would get deleted in a few hours. 8( Try a fansite, a Mega Man Wiki and the Mega Man Home Page.

[edit] ...you talkin' to me?

It's probably not encyclopedia-worthy to point out that Bomb Man has an uncanny resemblance to Travis Bickle, but...well, he does. Thunderbunny 18:33, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

Along with anyone who has a generic mohawk? Kil 16:24, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Edit by User:Zero

I've inserted basic wikitables for each section to keep everything neat and easily accesible. I've also merged the various GIFs from each Mega Man game article into the tables to complete the descriptions. -ZeroTalk 17:49, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Wonderful job, Zero! Except you might want to convert the Megaman, Megaman 2, Megaman 7 and Megaman 8 Robot Master pictures to their Megaman and Bass CD pictures. --63.135.20.33 17:10, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
Done. -Randall Brackett 15:21, 13 July 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Unused/concept Robot Masters

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[edit] MM2 Robot Master pictures

Can be found here: http://fenrir.finalfantasyq.com/mm/db/

Someone please add them.

go quick man!

[edit] [Name]man / [Name] Man

It seems that it always changes, depending on the game. Sometimes there's spacing, sometimes there's not. Once, there was even CamelCase in the English translation of Navi Mode in Mega Man Anniversary Collection. Overall, it seems like the Japanese games don't support spaces (Rockman), while the English ones seem to favor them (Mega Man). However, how about the Robot Masters with only one appearance, such as Timeman and Oilman? They were NEVER named with spaces. In fact, in Mega Man Powered Up, Mega Man was the only name with a space. So why are we, for example, calling them Time Man and Oil Man when, in their first and only appearance, they were Timeman and Oilman? I think we should either (1) include the spelling of each Robot Master's name exactly as they were in their debut game (Cutman, Top Man, etc), or (2) add an alternate names category for all known spellings - But not simply generalize and conform the list.


[edit] Edit by Forte X

I put Bass (Forte) in at the top of the page where it talks about MegaMan, ProtoMan, and Roll being robot masters but "not being considered so by the fans..." So now it includes Bass as being a robot master, yet not being considered so. If anyone sees any justification of taking this out, please do so.

What happened to Geminiman's picture? What is that bottle looking thing in geminiman's box? Clearly, it has no place in this page.71.236.27.140 04:08, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Name

Before anyone asks, the robot master listed as "???", that name was not made by CAPCOM, it was not made by the fan-base, someone used the name when he (or she) added it to wikipedia, and wikipedians apperantly decided it deserved to stay. BassxForte 07:09, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] DRN/DLN

The American manual for Megaman 8 clearly listed Protoman, Megaman, and Roll as DL#000, DL#001, and DL#002 respectively. I'm not sure about the manuals for older games (since I sadly lack them), but this is at least one instance where the model numbers reflect the English name. Should the article follow this for all of Light's creations? --BPM 10:35, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Stardroids/Space Rulers

I remember hearing a long time ago that these robots were created by fusing together the data of two Robot Masters into one. As of this writing, the article mentions this for two Stardroids, Mercury and Venus. Does anyone have a source for this, and if possible, can the information be added to the remaining Stardroids? 69.19.14.24 16:23, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] PC game Robot Masters

I seem to remember this page once containing info on the Robot Masters from the DOS versions of Mega Man and Mega Man III. What happened to that? Jeff Silvers (talk) 06:15, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

  • Damned if I know. Add 'em back! Thanos6 (talk) 05:53, 3 February 2008 (UTC)