Talk:Richey James Edwards

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[edit] Rimbaud

The information about Rimbaud in this article contradicts the Rimbaud article. Hu 16:53, 2004 Dec 3 (UTC)

there is an article linking him to the darkness's bass player, might be worth mentioning?

In my opionion, no. See Talk:Richie Edwards for details. Stu 12:06, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

Silly Fact? Shouldn't this be in trivia or something? --OGoncho 08:04, 24 Dec 2004 (UTC)

This exact same article is on answers.com. Except without the flattering picture.

That's because all of Wikipedia is released under the GNU Free Documentation License (GFDL). That means anyone can repost our articles, so long as they cite the original authors (usually done by linking back to the Wikipedia article being mirrored). In fact, Answers.com is one of the better Wikipedia mirrors. - 211.28.186.131 09:41, 8 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Sad

Sad that Richey disappeared. I wonder what happens to his royalties. If he isn't officially dead, he can't have an estate. Legally I guess they have to keep the money for him somewhere. They can;t just give it to his family without formalities. He might return and throw a fit about it otherwise. Pliny 17:10, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

You can indeed have an estate whilst you're alive - it's simply everything you own at any given time. It doesn't become an estate on death: the confusion probably just comes from the fact that it's only mentioned when the time comes to divide it up. Also, on the point regarding the band having an account for him, it's likely that the money's simply deposited into his usual account, since it will probably still be open if he has yet to be declared dead. -Scott-
I read somewhere recently that the band have an account or something where all his songwriting royalties are collected in case he comes back. If that isn't friendship I don't know what is! --TLIP 18:31, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
But that means his family go without. Odd they have never sought a declaration of death (possible after 7 years of someone's seeming to be dead). But perhaps there are technicalities. Pliny 21:58, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
Well he comes from humble working class beginnings, so I don't think his family are the greedy type, but I don't know the specifics of it all. And they haven't sought a declaration of death because they still hope and believe he's alive. --TLIP 01:18, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
surely a declaration won't kill him. And if he's alive, serves him right for putting them though it all and being silly. Pliny 09:11, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

Reverted because of speculation (what's been removed in bold): Richey James Edwards (born 1967- 1995 ) was a member of the Welsh rock band Manic Street Preachers, who has been missing since 1995 but not legally declared dead, despite the fact he clearly is. I Don't really see how the two latest edits improved the article. If anyone disputes what i've done, please talk about it here, before changing it back. --Redmachine432 07:25, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Maybe it was Edwards trying to cover his tracks!
I wish!! ;o;

[edit] Quotes

Why have the quotes been removed? Mr Wire has a quote section, even tom chaplin of keane had one, so why have these nice little excerts of speech been removed?

Wikiquote is the quotation reference book of the wikimedia foundation, so they were transwikied there. I hadn't got around to the Nicky Wire page, apologies. Hiding Talk 17:09, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Legally Dead?

The Ongoing History of New Music episode from http://www.edge.ca/station/ongoing_history_of_new_music.cfm?recID=161&ell=8943&pge=1# and look for the episode listed as "The 100 Greatest New Rock Moments Ever - Part 2" mentions him as having been declared legally dead. Is that to say that the article is accurate, or is this more accurate? ChristopherBorcsok 04:50, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

Legally, he's still alive. They must be assuming that he was declared dead on the 7th anniversary of his little dissapearing act, which isn't the case.Unreadablecharacters 20:45, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
In the The Ongoing History of New Music episode "Seven Great Mysteries of Modern Rock" (originally aired October 27, 2002) Alan Cross says very explicitly that on February 1, 2002, Richey James Edwards was declared legally dead. This is vetted by Rolling Stone Magazine and Economic Expert. However the band has set aside Richey's quarter of the royalties should he ever resurface. --Waterspyder 21:14, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
Probably a tad late to be posting this now, but an NME clipping of mine from 2002 says otherwise. I'll post a photo for citation purposes, if needs be. 17:22, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Going in with this, someone needs to make up their mind on how they want to represent this in the article, as the mention of the courts declaring him dead conflict with later mention in the article, particularly this - "While his family had the option of declaring him legally dead from 2002, they have chosen not to, and his status remains open as a missing person." It'd be helpful to those (not unlike myself) who were reading this for the first time. --71.156.91.87 20:13, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Just a comment, but declared legally dead by the British Court makes no sense - there's no such thing as British Court. Laws are English, Scottish etc. not British. JediLofty 13:59, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Richeyedwards1.jpg

Resolved. Hiding Talk 10:58, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

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BetacommandBot 01:20, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] 27 Club ?

He was 27 when he went missing, and could be a possible addition to that? Thoughts?--h i s s p a c e r e s e a r c h 10:14, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

Also, this is well cited. Expand it a bit more and it'll be a GA. I don't have access to the books related to this, but good work has been done so far.--h i s s p a c e r e s e a r c h 12:46, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Is or was?

Should it say Richey James Edwards is or was? So long as he isn't legally dead shouldn't it be left as is? Or maybe something else I haven't thought of. I know it's just one word but it makes a difference. FreemDeem (talk) 01:16, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

  • I've tried to address this as best I can, tweaking so that we state he is a former co-lyricist rather than was a co-lyricist. I also tweaked other instances in the text. Hiding T 15:21, 14 April 2008 (UTC)