Talk:Regina Coeli

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[edit] Merge

I think it's a pretty obvious merge, but I don't know which title to put it at. I'm confused at the spelling of the word caeli/coeli. Contribute to Talk:Credo if you can explain it. Rigadoun 16:50, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Do not merge

This article is about the prayer Regina Coeli, not the title of the Blessed Virgin in her capacity as Queen of Heaven. Are you Catholic or Protestant? If you were Catholic, you'd know your prayers.

That's fine, but the prayer is included in entirety in the other article, which seemed redundant. That info can be put here and removed from there. Rigadoun 18:39, 26 June 2006 (UTC)


Keep I agree with whomever did not sign. Even the prayer and the hymn are used in different contexts. I would keep them separate.--Vaquero100 19:14, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Requested move

The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.


At Wikipedia:Requested moves, there was a request to move this article to Regina Caeli. I've copied the request and the ensuing discussion here:

  • Regina Coeli → Regina Caeli - 'Caeli' is the correct Latin spelling of the word, 'Coeli' is a later Mediaeval mistake. InfernoXV 19:18, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
    • Comment. Catholic Encyclopedia uses "Coeli", as do numerous churches and schools. Ghits are almost 4.5:1 for "Coeli". Can you please bring a cite? Thanks. --SigPig |SEND - OVER 02:58, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
    • Reply. Um. How about wiktionary:caelum and [1]? The current Latin editions published by Rome these days are very careful not to use coeli, but rather caeli. Also Ave Regina Caelorum is somehow better known as 'caelorum' than 'coelorum', and more hits turn up for 'caelorum' in Google than for 'coelorum'. They're the same word, and it doesn't make sense to have variants as page names. Also, Lewis & Short, the standard Latin lexicon, lists 'coelum' as a later variant of 'caelum'. InfernoXV 11:15, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

I moved the request from the uncontroversial section, because somebody objected to it, and now I'm completing the listing, and putting this request in the queue to be processed by an admin in 5 days.

So, do we think this article should move to Regina Caeli or not? -GTBacchus(talk) 02:24, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

A fascinating question. There is no question that Caeli would be the classical spelling; there is no question that this poem is post-classical. There is relatively little question that Coeli or Celi would be the medieval spelling. So who are we being contemporary with? (The New Catholic Encyclopedia puts their article under Regina Caeli Laetare, which might be better disambiguation.) Septentrionalis PMAnderson 21:57, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
I think it's now clear which spelling was used when, but it remains unclear which we should be using. It was requested that this article be renamed but there was no consensus for it to be moved. --Stemonitis 08:01, 20 March 2007 (UTC)