Talk:Redshirt (college sports)

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I've read this three times and still don't get what it means. Can someone please rewrite the intro to make it understandable to non-Americans? Stifle (talk) 13:22, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

  • You are right, it needed work. I have modified the page and I believe I have addressed your concerns. (Terryn3 22:08, 6 June 2006 (UTC))
    • It's much better now. I'm still a little confused, though. If someone has four years of eligibility and spends four years getting a bachelor's degree, why would they ever need to do this? Stifle (talk) 09:32, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
      • The best known usage of the redshirt is for college football and college basketball, which at the highest levels are big-money sports and most players are playing in college to prepare for a professional career. Having a fifth year allows a student-athlete to progress farther, enhancing their prospects for a professional career. Also, fifth-year players are very experienced, and can help a team win, and with all the money that is out there for the winningest programs and coaches that is an enticement. I don't know about the depth of usage of redshirting in other sports, so I didn't write the article around football and basketball. The rules around redshirting are not specific to those sports. (Terryn3 22:52, 7 June 2006 (UTC))

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[edit] "Depth"?

There's a sentence in this entry—"This is a common occurance in many sports where there is already an established starter or too much depth at the position in which the freshman in question is planning to play."—that uses a term—"depth"—that I don't understand in the given context. Does it just mean there are many people on the team that can play the position—many back-ups? -Dan 16:41, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Yes, that it exactly what having depth at a position means. --Steve

Yep that would be it Danny. --Ballin'

[edit] Academic Sophomore?

I thought universities considered students academic sophomores if they have obtained a specific number of units (e.g. 30 units). This article implies that all redshirt freshmen have become academic sophomores, but I don't think that is necessarily true. Does anyone know for sure?

To remain eligible, a student-athelete must meet progress-towards-degree requirements (NCAA Bylaw 14.4). This requires 12 pages to explain in [1] 165.2.186.10 19:47, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Grayshirt?

Would this be an appropriate article to add a brief discussion of the so called 'grayshirt' classification? While not officially recognized by the NCAA (at least as far as I can tell). The grayshirt is an entering freshman that enters college in the spring semester in order to gain an extra semester of practice with the team, including spring training. This is another way that teams can get more practice time without sacrificing eligibility. I believe it is predominantly used by football programs (since unlike basketball) their season is entirely contained within the fall semester.

[edit] Junior College

If an athlete competes as a true freshman on an NAIA team then transfers to a junior college for his sophomore year, where they do not have a team, but he competes in open tournaments; does his sophomore year count as one of his four years of eligibility? MickeyMartin 19:25, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Redshirting after injury

I can't find a reference, but I know this happens - players can petition for a redshirt if they've been injured, even if they did play some during the season. --AW (talk) 00:51, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Redshirting Rules

Can an athlete that has had academic difficulty during a school year and as a result has become academically ineligible by the college's standards for the next school year be redshirted that next year while they get their grades back up to the school's standards or do NCAA rules prohibit the redshirting of academically ineligible players?Bulldogs86 (talk) 14:49, 17 May 2008 (UTC)