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[edit] Keg and Keg stand

Hey, I readded and cleaned up the beer games section to keg, as it fits better there. Keg stand is about one particular game. I'm going to do some more work on keg. --AW (talk) 20:25, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the note. Probably best to try a stand alone Keg games article if you feel it's notable enough. The games section doesn't belong in the Keg article, and that's certainly a less fitting place than in another article which is already about a keg game. I suggest moving Keg stand to Keg games and detail in there the sort of games that people play with kegs, including Keg stand. Would you like me to do it for you? SilkTork *YES! 20:35, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
I think it's ok as it is, I'm not sure the other games are that notable - it's stuff like run around and drink beer. I cut the keg games section down a lot. --AW (talk)
I've just started expanding the Keg stand article into a more comprehensive Keg games article and renamed it. See what you think. If you don't like it it can be moved back, but I think it gives more credibility to the keg stand game or ritual, putting it in context, and providing scope for the article to expand beyond its current limitations. It also gets the keg games section out of the Keg article where it clearly does not belong. Let me know what you think. SilkTork *YES! 20:56, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
Hey, hold up! Let's talk about this. I have a number of concerns. --AW (talk) 20:52, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
No problem. I won't do any more edits on either article for at least 12 hours. Give you time to think about my proposal, and either run with it, or counter it and provide a decent reason why student games should be included in a serious article on a beer container. SilkTork *YES! 21:00, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
Well, let's say "potentially" serious article - Keg does need not a lot of work yet! SilkTork *YES! 21:02, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, it definitely does need work, I did some already. But as for keg stand and keg games, I think these are two separate things - a keg stand isn't really a game, it's its own thing, with lots of news articles and such about it. "Keg games" to me is a nebulous term, which why I think it shouldn't be its own article. What is a keg game? A game that involves beer from a keg? But many drinking games can just as easily use beer from cans or bottles. Or is it a game involves using the keg itself? I dunno. I think any games should be mentioned in the keg article if there are reliable sources, just like anything else. Just because they are games, it doesn't mean they don't deserve to be on there - again, if they have sources. Also, a "kegger" is just another name for a party that has a keg at it, it's not a game or anything. Maybe this is all American/Aussie stuff. --AW (talk) 21:15, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

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