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[edit] Name

Commonly referred to as Ray Allen? That line makes this entry sound ignorant. He goes by Ray Allen. Every TV station and newspaper call him Ray Allen. He isn't "commonly referred" to as Ray Allen. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.27.113.92 (talk) 03:49, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Early discussions

I suggest reverting "joint" back to "film". After all, this is English Wikipedia, not Spike Lee Dialect Wikipedia. Kaleks 4 July 2005 04:06 (UTC)

Didn't he recently get filmed during a game accidentally getting his eye hit out of it's socket by another player? Maybe it's a different guy.

That was Allan Ray of Villanova University. --jiy (talk) 01:40, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

Ok. Thankyou. It's a bit confusing.

This page needs a revert to an earlier version Howaboutadog


Ray is the best 3 point shooter of all time. Yes.

[edit] He Got Game

Why is there no mention of He Got Game? Trevor GH5 03:21, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Table

There needs to be a table instead of straight up text for the career season averages. --JennicaTalk 08:40, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Nickname "Jesus"

Since user 75.66.138.30 (talk) has deliberately deleted the nickname Jesus out of this article various times, here is a page that verifies it is an actual nickname: I *Heart* Celtics. | 8-Hype (talk) 21:16, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

That is not a reliable source. Also, why do you think nationality should be USA and not American? --Tom 19:12, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
Because "nationality" actually means "nationality of", which makes the use of the adjective redundant. Take the Tiger Woods article as an example, or this site. "Nationality" is just another word for "country". | 8-Hype (talk) 19:25, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
ok, I guess. Is there a Wiki standard for nationality in info boxes? Anyways, thanks, --Tom 19:29, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
Not a standard maybe, but definitely a NBA scheme on Wikipedia. Also, you will hear those nicknames from Mike Gorman when you watch Celtics games on CSN New England. There is just no source for that (except the game itself). | 8-Hype (talk) 19:33, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
Then it really should not be included. Wikiapedia is not about the "truth" but rather sourced material. Anyways, --Tom 19:39, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Stats

Those blocks of statistics are unnecessary on Wikipedia, per WP:NOT#STATS. There are other reputable sources on the internet with sports statistics; WP doesn't have to be one, it should just reference one. Timneu22 (talk) 10:03, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Excessive use of pictures

Apparently I have to come here because for some reason, I'm pretty much forbidden from removing the pictures from the article myself (thanks to 8-Hype). I know that many pictures are usually a good thing. But in certain situations, I do think there is a point that you need to stop. There are three pictures in the 'Boston Celtics' section in the article and takes up twice as many space as the text of that section. I think that two of the images can be removed: the image of Allen dunking (the lighting makes it difficult to see Allen at all and is it very far zoomed out) and the image of Allen throwing out a ceremonial first pitch at Fenway Park (which doesn't contribute anything to the article). I think that both of these images can be removed, but 8-Hype won't let me.

I don't know if my IP address would be the same; it should be in the 166.129... range. It has changed a couple times before. 166.129.41.85 (talk) 02:24, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

I think the ceremonial first pitch image at Fenway Park is appropriate for the honors section. After all, to throw one is to be given an honor. Louis Waweru  Talk  09:05, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
What do you mean by you're forbidden from removing the pictures because 8-Hype won't let you? I see that they've been removed and then reverted at least three times in the past week (examples here, here and here). I think a consensus needs to be reached regarding the images. Here they are: Your Newest Celtic.jpg Ray Allen Dunk.jpg. I've stated why the Fenway Park picture should remain on the article. I don't see how the Ray Allen Dunk image improves the article. Its bad qualities (brightness, hard to see Allen, perhaps makes the page cluttered) probably hurt the article. So I would support removing it. Louis Waweru  Talk  14:53, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
I don't understand what's wrong with having additional pictures. It doesn't hurt anybody, does it? ● 8~Hype @ 15:00, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
Not that it hurts anybody, but too many pictures, or poor quality pictures could hurt the aesthetics of the article. The appearance was so unpleasing to 166.129.41.85 that he removed it three times by my count. I don't think that there are too many pictures, but the infobox is so long and the Celtics section so short that the these two pictures kinda flood over. Maybe an image gallery section would be better? Louis Waweru  Talk  17:16, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
I could understand putting the Fenway picture in the honors section, provided that the honor is at least mentioned in that section. But the Allen dunking picture is of poor quality, has a high level of brightness that makes it difficult to actually see the image without looking too hard, and I don't think these kinds of images help the article. Also, having so many images in a line like that makes the page a bit cluttered, especially if they overflow into other sections of the article, like this one does. 166.129.245.51 (talk) 00:30, 12 June 2008 (UTC)