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Heavily suggest this is moved to Rashidun, and redirect there, instead of vice versa. The term currently used is a tad POV (despite capitalization denoting title), and "Rashidun" is a far more popular term, even in the Western world. Compare Results 1 - 10 of about 427 for "Four Righteously Guided Caliphs" (many are Wiki mirrors) to Results 1 - 10 of about 19,100 for Rashidun Sherurcij ^{(talk) (Terrorist Wikiproject)} 09:46, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

Quite POV, also needs to be turned into idiomatic English.68.49.36.18 22:40, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

Contents 1 Too-big text 2 what about aurangzeb 3 Only Four? 4 Sunni and Shia Islam

[edit] Too-big text

The {{ArTranslit}} template causes the text to render huge on my browser... AnonMoos 08:24, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] what about aurangzeb

you can mention aurangzeb to be fifth rightly guided caliph. nids 11:15, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

However much you may admire him. he'll never be a first-generation founding figure of Islam (Companion of Muhammad). AnonMoos 08:24, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Only Four?

How can one be sunni if one does not consider Hassan ibn Ali as kuhlafa rashidun. Sunnis do consider Hassan to be kuhlafa rashidun. That is why they say in urdu panch yaar haaq(five rigthly guided friends). Any comments? -- Imranal 20:01, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

The Rashidun are the first four caliphs why do you say there are 5? Hasan ibn Ali was not part of the rashidun. He only briefly claimed the caliphate and was recognized by only a small portion of the Islamic empire. He resigned his claim, and recognized Mu'awiyah.

Well thats usually believed by wahabis and not the sunnis. Let say that it was brief, that still emancipates it as a khilafat non the less. Secondly, there are only five "Rightly Guided" because of the Hadith in which the Prophet mentioned that there will be time when people will become treacherous and untrustworthy. Now this time began after the Khilafat of Hassan. Before this time, the Ummah was unanimous of who should be Caliph. After that it was up to the Muslim Ummah to decide who was trustworthy, and hence some disagreeing on who was the next Caliph. Imranal 22:37, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

That isn't right. There are only 4 rightly guided Caliphs. Abu Bakr, Umar ibn al-khattab, Uthman bin Affan, and Ali ibn Abi talib. The people became treacherous during the caliphate of Uthman. Hassan was only caliph for a very short time then he turned it over to Mu'awiyah. --CherryBlossom93 (talk) 23:32, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sunni and Shia Islam

The term is used in both sunni and Shia Islam although there is a difference in (Tafseer)the explination of the term.--Aziz1005 20:05, 22 March 2007 (UTC)