Talk:Quinton Jackson
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Where is his Abidi fights (non-MMA fights).
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[edit] quinton vs chuck liddell
rampage is the last person to beat the UFC light heavyweight champion Chuck "the iceman" liddell. he beat chuck in PRIDE. rampage is now in the UFC light heavyweight division and has had 1 fight against Marvin "the beastman" Eastman, Rampage was victorious and he was also victorious in his rematch against Chuck Liddell for the light heavy weight title.
[edit] Question
"He and his wife Yuki were separated in April 2006 after a blood test showed he fathered one of his children, Raja, with another woman" - This doesn't make sense at all. I checked the reference and it confirms this, but it still doesn't make sense. Why would they need a blood test to confrim another woman had his child? One would think it would be obvious to his wife that she isn't the biological mother if she DIDN'T HAVE THE KID. Does anyone actually understand this? Why would his wife leave him after discovering the obvious? Did he manage to trick her in to thinking she was actually pregnant for 9 months and had the kid, and simply forgot it all? --128.193.4.98 19:19, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
- It could make sense if Jackson was given custody of Raja after the blood test. hateless 20:12, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
I deleted an entry by Hexrei because it was a malicious statement void of proof. I am disappointed that Wikipedia had not made the correction of the libelous entry themselves.
- I'm not going to dig to find out who you are, unnamed wikier, but its not a malicious statement if its a SOURCED QUOTE. jerk. don't sling those kinds of accusations at me.Hexrei 05:58, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
- Actually, I just went back to find the correction you made, and the "malicious statement" you attributed to me was in fact not made by me. Try checking history next time please.Hexrei 06:02, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
Alright so I'm just going to fix this one myself.Hexrei 03:28, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
- So I suck at wikipedia'ing but I hope my change clarified the situation just a little bit.Hexrei 03:30, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
- I've removed reference to his wife splitting up within the person section. The link has either expired or never existed, so we are unable to verify based on the reference. Additionally, via various searches on La Times archives, http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/latimes/ , no article exists that contains this information. Until someone can provide valid sources this should remain off of the wiki article.--Chadq 00:48, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
- Don't you think you're being extreme about this? Sourcing expired articles is not forbidden on WP, and we have discussion here with three people who have seen the source and vouch for its authenticity. If you want to see the text of the article, it's archived at two message boards, here and here. hateless 05:18, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
- First of all I didn't write this portion, I just clarified it. The earlier excerpt was unclear and left a lot to speculation which doesn't make sense when we had a sourced reference. Second, as I mentioned, it was cited, so I don't see why it's a problem to include it. Does the simple fact that some might find it scandalous make it against WP, even if it is referenced?Hexrei 05:58, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
- Don't you think you're being extreme about this? Sourcing expired articles is not forbidden on WP, and we have discussion here with three people who have seen the source and vouch for its authenticity. If you want to see the text of the article, it's archived at two message boards, here and here. hateless 05:18, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
- I've removed reference to his wife splitting up within the person section. The link has either expired or never existed, so we are unable to verify based on the reference. Additionally, via various searches on La Times archives, http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/latimes/ , no article exists that contains this information. Until someone can provide valid sources this should remain off of the wiki article.--Chadq 00:48, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Albinism
For anyone curious why Wikipedia shows a picture of Jackson with a white son, the son shows characteristics of albinism in the UFC:All Access footage. There don't appear to be any sources to attribute this too, though.--Ty580 05:20, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Curious Gossip
Firstly, regarding the previous posting regarding Jackson's child from another woman, other than his wife, this person seems to be asking a "birds & bees" question that does not deserve to be on Wikipedia. (Psssst....his wife thought the other woman had a child by another man. The blood test proved it was, in fact, Quinton's.) Secondly, why is the topic of this kind of gossip on here in the first place, meaning in the article initially posted by Wikipedia? It seems like an odd piece of information to be noted in this article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.60.65.42 (talk • contribs)
- It's not gossip, it was found in an article in the LA Times and it appears Rampage volunteered the information himself (albeit I admit there's no proof of that). However marital status is commonly found in WP bios and I don't see anything wrong with noting it, nor a simple explanation for that status. I can however see removing the blood test info if there are WP:BLP issues.l hateless 18:32, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
[edit] New Image
Why is it getting deleted? User: Renny11
- See Wikipedia:Uploading images. hateless 10:27, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
[edit] link to kenneth williams wrong
check and change someone (i dont know how too) Matthew7785 20:42, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Rampage weight
He weighs 230 was confirmed in a Sirius radio interview. Think that should be listed as his weight rather than his fighting weight.
- The weight fluctuates daily and it's going to drop as he ramps up training. We can't change the weight as he does. 205 has been certified by a government agency, for our purposes the most useful number to note, and it should be the weight we record. hateless 08:43, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
- Not sure I agree Hateless. I guess maybe clarification is needed, is the weight category there to list the fighter's recent weight class, the exact weight of their last weigh-in, or to list their actual day to day weight? I see problems with each possibility, not least that fighters often don't weight exactly their weight class even on the weight-in day, much less the day before or the day after. However, this discussion is obviously relevant to more than just Rampage, where is the proper place to discuss this? Hexrei 21:45, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
- Template talk:MMAstatsbox would be the place to discuss the template box but Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Mixed martial arts would probably be better since it's more frequented. hateless 23:25, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
- Not sure I agree Hateless. I guess maybe clarification is needed, is the weight category there to list the fighter's recent weight class, the exact weight of their last weigh-in, or to list their actual day to day weight? I see problems with each possibility, not least that fighters often don't weight exactly their weight class even on the weight-in day, much less the day before or the day after. However, this discussion is obviously relevant to more than just Rampage, where is the proper place to discuss this? Hexrei 21:45, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Undisputed championship
It's technically not undisputed, since there are other orgs other than PRIDE and UFC that recognize a "World" light heavy champ, ie, WEC's Doug Marshall, or Cage Rage's Antonio Silva. We also can't say he's the ranked #1 fighter, Rua is on top of most lists. I'm leaning toward rewriting to say he unified the sport's top two most prestigious titles instead. hateless 23:45, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
- Or we could avoid choosing a term and just say he holds the PRIDE and UFC light heavyweight belts. Sancho 23:54, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
- He did not win the PRIDE title though. The PRIDE title is nothing at this point. Instead, the UFC belt is going to be used as the unified title. Instead of undisputed I think it should say unified, because that is what it is. Thesaddestday 00:21, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
- Right, good point. That makes sense to call it the unified title. Sancho 00:25, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
- He did not win the PRIDE title though. The PRIDE title is nothing at this point. Instead, the UFC belt is going to be used as the unified title. Instead of undisputed I think it should say unified, because that is what it is. Thesaddestday 00:21, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Jackson's comment on Sakuraba fight
Quinton Jackson claimed that PRIDE officials offered him more money if he lost to Sakuraba at PRIDE 15. This information was included in the PRIDE 15 article but was then removed without an explanation. Comments? Shawnc (talk) 16:48, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
