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P.E.I. was the 7th, not 8th, province to enter Confederation. N.S., N.B., ON., P.Q., MB., and B.C. came before, while AB., SK., and N.L. came after. I've updated the information accordingly. - AJM



Can someone put a border around the flag so that its white doesn't blend into the background? -- Zoe

Done. --Brion

Thanks, the border looks good. -- Zoe

the polish page is killer! I am going to be translating some of it, and adding it to the english page Pellaken 07:13, 8 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Hi, new member here. I'm from PEI, I changed "build up" to "built-up" in the History section.

Hello, this is a guest here speaking. Just wondering if you can add Prince Edward Island's nickname and/or motto. Remember, every detail counts.

PEI is the Garden Province. Now to figure how to put this in the article!!! - Mike O

When and how did Prince Edward Island become a province? Nik42 01:06, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I've added a paragraph to the History section explaining when PEI became a province Pburka 14:44, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Driving on Left side of road

An anon editor (24.137.96.155) removed the line saying that PEI vehicles drove on the left side till 1924 without justification. I investigated, and discovered it's probably true.

  • [1] says "1920s"
  • [2] cites the exact date of "1 May 1924"

I would say that this fact is probably true, and shoudln't be removed on a whim. — Fudoreaper 21:54, 18 November 2005 (UTC)

Agreed, but it probably doesn't need to be said twice. I've removed the duplicate entry from the facts section. Pburka 04:23, 19 November 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for the sharp eye, Pburka. I didn't notice that the second entry was a duplicate. If you'll allow me to rant a bit here, THIS IS WHY I HATE EDITS WITHOUT SUMMARIES@!!@@ If the editor had said "remove duplicate fact", i would have known WHY it was removed, instead of seeing the baseless removal of an interesting fact. I almost wish the summary line weren't optional. Grrr... Anyway, i added the precise date into the line mentioning it. — Fudoreaper 12:13, 19 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Page looks great!

Hi there, I am a user from Prince Edward Island. I just want to say that the page looks great and you can tell that there was a lot of work put into it.

I just added a little fact about the Island Waste Management Corporation and its role on Prince Edward Island. I got my information from the official Website about the IWMC, [3] J Dogg 16:02, 26 June 2006 (UTC)J Dogg

Hey again, I just wanted to add another fact. When I was researching my history paper on the Seven Years' War, I came upon the name of Colonel Andrew Rollo. He was a subordinate of Major General Jeffery Amherst. He was in 1758, ordered to expel the remaining Acadians from, what is now P.E.I. I did some research on my own and discovered that in 1764, Samuel Holland, the British Surveyor named Rollo Bay after the Colonel.

My information is from "Empires At War: The Seven Years' War" by William H. Fowler Jr. published in 2005 by Walker & Company. ISBN: 0802714110 J Dogg 01:24, 27 June 2006 (UTC)J Dogg

[edit] To whomever this concerns:

Stop adding non-sense to wikipedia. Some user(s)continue to add information about how P.E.I. was captured in 1758 by pirates looking for treasure. This is simply not true. Colonel Andrew Rollo was ordered by General Jeffery Amherst to capture what is now P.E.I. No pirates were involved in the capture of the island and there was no treasure. My sources are: 1. Fowler, William M. Empires at War: The French and Indian War and the Struggle For North America. Vancouver: Douglas & McIntyre Ltd., 2005

2. Warner, Oliver. With Wolfe to Quebec. Toronto: William Collins Sons and Company Ltd., 1972 ISBN 0002119420 J Dogg 15:00, 17 July 2006 (UTC)J Dogg

[edit] "From away"

Just a word on non-Islanders being "from away" - born in central Canada, I have lived on the Island for several years and was not once said to be "from away." Just a reminder.

First of all, please sign your comments; it's not really a big deal to hit four tildes. Second, this isn't a "reminder", since you're not refreshing our memories of something we were informed of previously. It's a comment which would have been more helpful if there was a suggestion (if you think something on a Wikipedia article isn't accurate, instead of just pointing it out, you can explain how you think it would be improved, or edit it yourself (that's pretty much the whole point of Wikipedia). Third, your alleged anecdote is one example, an "exception to the rule". I have edited the article to say that Islanders often refer to non-Islanders in that way, which will hopefully satisfy your sense of accuracy. While I don't think the original phrasing was intended to be taken to mean that every non-Islander is always refered to as "from away" by every Islander, you apparantly took it as such. Any sweeping generalization like that is obviously inaccurate, so I added a modifier, and I think you'd be hard-pressed to prove that non-Islanders aren't often referred to in that way. - Ugliness Man 04:38, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
But he wouldn't be hard-pressed to prove that yours was an warrantedly snarky response to what must have appeared to be a reasonable comment. WP:Don't bite the newbies. Geoff NoNick 11:57, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

My mother was born in Nova Scotia and moved here in her teens and has lived on the Isalnd for seventy years. She married an Islander and raised a family of seven children here. She has been involved in many church and community organizations as a volunteer. She is often refered to as being 'from away' by Islanders who have known her as long as she's been here. - Stroback (talk) 16:52, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

I removed the over from overrepresentation, it comes off as very judgemental instead of informative. JMK


As a person from Nova Scotia, I can affirm that here, people who are from other places are often referred to as being 'from away' too. It's not strictly just a PEI thing mostlymike

I think minerals for P.E.I should be added to its page, along with the animal it has. Every detail counts!!

Hi I am from "Far Away" My Great Grandfather (John McLeod) left Scotland In 1865 and disembarked in USA at Castle Garden 0n 14th December that year. His reported destination from the ships manifest Was Prince Edward Island. Family information is that he faught in the American Civil War. I can find no trace of him since this time. Did he settle? did he go to war? Is there any PEI records of this period that could throw some light on this? (Peter McKain )(peter.mckain@sky.com)


                        ~Baleigh~

[edit] Colonial Era article

Since PEI existed as a British colony before it was a Canadian province, I propose creating a new page about the British colony as a seperate entity (perhpas Prince Edward Island (colony)). This compares with Ontario and Upper Canada, BC and Colonial BC, or Newfoundland and Labrador and Dominion of Newfoundland. It doesn't mean that this article can't mention the history before 1867, but that the new article could go into much more depth. Kevlar67 20:02, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] On the term "Islander"

The term "Islander" tends to be applied to the population of the nearest island to any location. I don't believe it can uniquely applied to people from Prince Edward Island.

  • I think that within Canada it is though, is it not? I've not heard the term applied to Canadians from any other province, only to those from the island. ? Justanothermutt 14:23, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Maps

{{reqmapin|Canada}} Hello everybody! Can anyone provide a slightly more detailed map than the map of Canada with a red circle around PEI? The map in place is fine for a generic reference, but I think another map with main cities, etc. would be a good addition. Moondoll 19:22, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

  • i'm pretty new to wikipedia and although i've figured out basic edits, i'm not sure how to add an image somewhere... there's a map located at http://www.artsandcraftsnet.ca/images/maps/pe.gif that might be what you're searching for - if it is, perhaps you know how to add it in? :-) Justanothermutt 16:04, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
This map is not satisfactory because it has apparently not been released under a free license. It would also be nice to show the surrounding geographical context. -- Beland 22:15, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
There are quite a few maps at Commons:Category:Maps of Prince Edward Island. --Qyd (talk) 22:41, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

The French one seems to be the best, I'm going to put that in and hopefully someone can modify it into English... 128.83.167.129 (talk) 21:17, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Terminology

Hi. I've lived in PEI since 1983 and the term that "islanders" (PE Islanders that is) the term they use for those of us who don't have ancestry here is "PFA's" (People From Away) .. PFA ...

[edit] Pogee

I am convinced this is a hoax and will keep reverting the addition of "pogee' until someone can give a reference. Given the history of the user making the addition I doubt this will be given. Silverchemist 00:59, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Someone from University of New Brunswick keeps putting this back in. The only mention of an animal called a "Pogee" on the entire web is in this article or those that quote it. Unless it is a spelling mistake or an obsure local name, I believe this is a hoax. It is being propagated throughout the Web. Silverchemist 16:14, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
And again on October 10 with the justification "As dumb as this looks, its true". If it sounds dumb, then it needs more clarification and references. Nowhere else is there any mention of such an animal.

please add more facts on the government! we need more info! TANKS! (I hope anyway) oh and ad a little special sounding affects please!

[edit] Red Soil

Hello, I was just wondering why P.E.I has red soil? If someone could add this it would be great!

stephiesmyth —Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.53.163.24 (talk) 19:55, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] THE SLOGIN, ANIMAL, FLOWER AND TREE

P.E.I has a slogin wich is the small under the protection of the great. P.E.I has an animal wich is a blue jay. And a flower called the pink lady slipper.also a tree called North red oak tree. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.229.28.205 (talk) 23:46, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Great article, just one issue

I think that this is a great article. I congratulate all the people who donated their time to making it. My only criticism is that it is stated that as of January 1, 2008 it is legal to sell canned carbonated beverages. This is not true. Just over a week ago (first week of March) a merchant in western PEI, had his shop raided and he had approximately 900 cases of canned pop confiscated. He is being charged for selling these items. Someone should remove the sentence in question. Rollo Bay 1758 (talk) 21:47, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Map change

I've given this article the same map all the other Canadian provinces & territories are using. PS- the previous map made PEI look like an independant country; even though it was used due to PEI's being so small within Canada. GoodDay (talk) 15:27, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, so maybe there should be a map of PEI then since that is the subject of the article and you cannot even see it on that map. DoubleBlue (Talk) 15:48, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
I'm under pressure from Rab-k (from the article Scotland), to change the map. I explained to him the optical reasons for the previous map. GoodDay (talk) 16:29, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for your replies. I'm not opposed to showing where the province is in relation to the rest of Canada but the image in the infobox should at least show the subject of the article. It's not visible at that perspective. I'm not involved in the Scotland dispute but it would be trivial to have a map that showed both Scotland and its location in relation to the UK. It is not so easy here. I think a broader discussion would be helpful here. DoubleBlue (Talk) 16:46, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
It's perfectly valid to include a map of PEI in the article, but the primary infobox map should depict its placement within Canada as a whole. Firstly, we need to have a consistent presentation across all provincial and territorial articles, and secondly, if the reader isn't already familiar with Canada it does them no good to see a map of PEI-only, if they still don't have a clue where it is in relation to other Canadian provinces. A PEI-specific map can certainly be included later in the article, but the map in the infobox does need to be the same map as other provincial and territorial infoboxes. Bearcat (talk) 17:08, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Congrats to you both; this was a quick resolution to the problem. The Canadian map at the top & PEI map later in the article. GoodDay (talk) 17:35, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

I still think the image in the infobox on PEI should show PEI. It is invisible in Image:Prince Edward Island-map.png. In an article on a subject, the subject should be in the infobox, the relative position is secondary to that in importance. Anyway, I have attempted a new map that has a "zoom-in" segment for PEI. I don't have any fancy image software, so if someone can improve it, please replace it freely. DoubleBlue (Talk) 00:03, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

If you were proposing that we do the same for all thirteen Canadian provinces and territories, I'd probably agree with you. What I can't agree with is singling out PEI as being somehow the only province that deserves to have a map of the province in its head infobox rather than a location-within-Canada map. Bearcat (talk) 18:25, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
Otherwise PEI is the only province that cannot be seen in the infobox. I think that we should replace them with maps of the province/territory. The point of images in infoboxes is to see an image of the subject; not its relation to other subjects. That can (and should) be done in other sections of the article. Of course, for most provinces and territories, it is quite visible in Canada as-a-whole maps and does fine double-duty showing both it and the position but not so for PEI. DoubleBlue (Talk) 22:01, 9 April 2008 (UTC)