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1 Standardized Team Names
2 {{Cleanup-list|date=January 2008}}
3 Dorados
4 Most Important League?
5 Most important league
6 Copa Libertadores Qualification
7 Fair use rationale for Image:Pachuca.PNG
8 Fair use rationale for Image:Toluca.PNG
9 Fair use rationale for Image:Guadalajara.PNG
10 Fair use rationale for Image:UNAM.PNG
11 Fair use rationale for Image:1.PNG
12 Fair use rationale for Image:America.PNG

[edit] Standardized Team Names

I believe we should work to standardize the club names on all the Mexican football wikis. Currently the names lack consistency and might be confusing to someone interested in learning about Mexican football. I propose using:

Group 1	Group 2	Group 3
Atlante	América	Atlas
Monterrey	Cruz Azul	Chiapas
Pachuca	Guadalajara	Necaxa
Puebla	Morelia	San Luis
Santos	UAG	Toluca
Ciudad Juárez	UNAM	UANL

While the common, popular names of certain clubs such as Chivas and Pumas are not used, I feel these standard names properly emphasize the location of the teams. We could also do something like Medio Tiempo or Nombre Popular from FEMEXFUT. While this might not seem like an important issue I would love to hear as many opinions as possible so we can create consistency in the Mexican football articles. Lineofire (talk) 05:01, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] {{Cleanup-list|date=January 2008}}

I took {{Cleanup-list|date=January 2008}} off the top. It looks like this:

This list may require cleanup to meet Wikipedia's quality standards.
Please help improve this list. It may be poorly defined, unverified or indiscriminate. (January 2008)

and isn't really appropriate for an article that's not a list. Perhaps it's referring to the list of champions or something, but I didn't see any obvious holes there. If it was added for a reason, please clarify here. Thanks, PhilipR 04:47, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

The problem is simply that there are too many lists. Wikipedia is not a collection of indiscriminant information, and this page is more like an almanac. Prehaps you should summarise the lists in paragraphs, and possibly move the lists into separate articles if they're notable in themselves. --Tango 22:54, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

I see what Tango means. I'm going to edit the Titles box in order to make it look more like the one on the La Liga page, a similar article with no {{Cleanup-list|date=January 2008}} tag. Also, the divisional movements list is not essential to the article. I'll see if there's any way to incorporate that to other articles (such as existing First Division clubs' articles - as the list is relevant to the histories of those teams) or creating a separate article for it. Instinkt 01:18, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

Okay. I've edited the Titles box in a format much like the one in the La Liga page, with the intent to make the shorten the page length. The "Divisional Movements" table is now gone, and currently on my user page. I will work to incorporate the information in a non-list format to the respective club pages which the list references. I still believe there are too many lists. Particularly the season by season top goalscorer list bothers me. I'll see what I can do with that. - Instinkt 01:31, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

I've removed another list, but provided a link off-site to find the information that was removed. The article now has four lists, the first of which is essential to the article. The other three are helpful companions which are often featured in other football league articles that do not feature a {{Cleanup-list|date=January 2008}} tag. I will now remove the tag in this article. If any other editor feels the need to keep the tag, please discuss the reasons why here. Thanks. - Instinkt 01:44, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

I believe the league has added an extra round to the playoffs with 10 total teams now. 4 teams playoff for the final 2 spots in the quarterfinals... http://www.femexfut.org.mx/portal/indexcontenido.php?Obj=100105 . The top 2 teams from each of the 3 groups appear to make the playoffs directly, while the remaining 4 best records reach the "recalificación." 132.170.41.154 07:13, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

why are there american NFL stadiums listed in the stadium section?

[edit] Dorados

Has Dorados replaced Querétaro because they are the Premier A champions?

-No, they still have to play a two-legged match against FC Puebla, who were champions the season before. Whoever wins this will be promoted to Primera División.

[edit] Most Important League?

This is what the first paragraph of the article says about the Mexican league: "And recognized by FIFA as the most important league outside of Europe". As much as I would love this to be true, there is no evidence for the claim. If no citation is found soon, it'd be a good idea to delete that sentence.

I couldn't find any source for that so changed it to the more NPOV..

It is regarded amongst the most prominent leagues in the Americas and the only league outside of South America who are allowed to contribute clubs to the Copa Libertadores.

IMO it is probably third behind Argentina and Brazil, but is deffinetly highly regarded. - The Daddy 13:16, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Most important league

This seems like an odd thing to say. A statement that is as definitive as this should be properly cited. I too believe the Mexican league to be one of the best in the world, but there needs to be some type of evidence for this claim.

[edit] Copa Libertadores Qualification

The article should include how Mexican teams qualify for the Copa Libertadores and Copa Sudamericana. MicroX 21:13, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Pachuca.PNG

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