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Contents 1 BHS Ireland purchase 2 Merge Penneys into this article 3 How it works 4 Advertising 5 Tidy up 6 Removed vandalism 7 Pronunciation 8 More Vandalism 9 "Fat Wear" 10 Store Structure 11 Source?

[edit] BHS Ireland purchase

AKAIK, BHS never is one of the ex-BHS sites, incidently. --83.70.59.159 17:20, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

Jervis Street. They were an anchor tenant there when it opened, although I actually think thats closed down again by now - I can't remember seeing it last time I was there. --Kiand 19:36, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Merge Penneys into this article

Primark is a very cheap shop :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.188.28.99 (talk) 13:47, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

As suggested at Penneys by someone else - I'd support, Penneys and Primark are one and the same, even the logo is the same, only the logotype is different. They offer the same proposition and services. Penneys actually predates Primark, however since Primark is their corporate name (the Penneys stores have "Penneys - Operated by Primark" on their packaging) I would suggest leaving it at this location with a redirect at Penneys.

--Rdd 16:05, 2 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] How it works

I'm not sure the information contained there has any place in an encylopedia, but I've moved it here in case somebody wants to put it back in.

--Rdd 16:05, 2 September 2005 (UTC)

How it works: Each section (or department) runs the operational side of the business. The (tactical) floor manager selects the stock that should be ordered and placed on the shop floor. The manager (strategic) controls the local shop, unlike other companies franchise system. The manager remain in control of the store and can function independently from other local chains.

Departments and codes: 1=Accessories. 2=Socks and Tights. 3=NOT USED. 4=Womens Apparel. 5=Childrens Wear. 6=Mens Wear. 7=Shoes. 8=Womens Wear. 9=Special deals / Reduced Clothing. 11=Homeware 23/24=Xmas Shop 26=Sportswear

Pay: Standard wage for Sales Assistants. £3.69 per hour (under 18) £4.92 (£5.55 with London weighting) per hour (over 18) No paid breaks or lunches Overtime is standard rate Biometric hand system installed

here pay is £3.83 under 18, £4.99 over 18, no overtime 81.156.33.251 08:49, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Advertising

I have cut the paragraph -

• This reputation has come about despite the company spending very little on advertising, which has consisted of little more than press releases to local newspapers as new stores have opened. A major exception to this is their Christmas advertising campaign, which has run on radio each Christmas (and occasionally on Irish television). In contrast to their main competitors, Matalan and George at ASDA, Primark have never advertised on television in the UK, and there is evidence that most of Primark's customers first heard about the store through word of mouth.

I REALLY don't think that its sourcable. Can't imagine any company not marketing itself in one way or another - If its important please discuss Mike33 13:38, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

It may be - I have started working in a flagship Primark store, and the above statement is more or less true; the HR person who finished off the induction said almost the same thing as the above statement.

In any case, it has advertised on UK Television, although possibly only Northern Ireland, not Great Britain. NotMuchToSay 19:46, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

Seems to be a couple of contradictions in the article about advertising, with one section saying they do not advertise, and another saying that they do... Also the largest store in this article claims to be Manchester, but in the Oxford Street article it claims to be there. I have never been to either of these stores, or seen any advertising, so am not really in a position to correct it myself. Craighennessey 00:18, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Tidy up

I have had a go at tidying it up, but there is still loads to do. Comments on my alterations would help me as I am fairly new to this--Screen42 23:09, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

I think this paragraph is slightly confusing:

All workers in their associated factories are paid a living wage that as a bare minimum covers all their basic needs and are consistent with local wage laws. All associated factory are paid the equivalent of at least the UK minimum wage in their country. Primark has deals with factories in Madrid and Vietnam and do not manufacture clothing in Bangladesh. "All associated factory are paid" - should it say, "All associated factory workers"? Also: in the paragraph before, it quotes Geoff Lancaster talking about raising standards in Bangladesh - which appears to contradict the final sentence above. Can anyone make this clearer?217.68.21.230 12:14, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

I changed this whole section as it was both unsourced and factually incorrect. 86.136.142.95 18:23, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Removed vandalism

I removed a comment left by someone: "Its totally fabulous for lil cheapie bargains and you can customize them and if you go wrong it doesnt really matter beacause they are so cheap!"

[edit] Pronunciation

It is noted in the Trivia that Primark is pronounced "Pree-mark" in NI, but "Pry-mark" in Great Britain. When I lived in Glasgow everyone said "Pree-mark." Is this just a Glasgow thing, or should the trivia be changed to "Pree-mark" in NI and Scotland? Spiderdust 04:10, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

no you are right, in scotland it is pronounced preemark, probably due to the fact that the scottish head office is in dublin and is not the same as the english head office Davidb90 14:43, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

I would say this was purely down to the accents of the Scottish and the Irish to be honest rather than it having anything to do with where the head office is based. My Husband and all his family are Scottish and all pronounce it 'preemark' but if u asked them why they pronounce in that way none of them would be able to make the connection with the way they pronounce the word to the fact that the head office is in Dublin. They dont know where the head office is. The Scottish pronounce a lot of words differently to the English purely because of the difference in their accents. For example, Scottish people pronounce the world 'police' as 'polis'. The general way they sound their words is completely different in many respects.TammiMagee 10:02, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

nope sorry your wrong, neds pronounce 'police' as 'polis', polis is just wrong, nothing to do with accent. the point i was trying to make is if the staff in scotland pronounce it preemark, then the customers are going to do the same. "The general way they sound their words is completely different in many respects" and generally correct! the english cannot (or do not) pronounce 'wh' 'aw' 'r' 81.156.33.251 08:46, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

I live near Birmingham, and most people I know say "Pree-mark". Honestly, this is the first time I've ever read that British/English people say "Pry-mark". In my experience, they just don't. 86.132.141.178 17:32, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

I remember a Christmas TV advertising campaign on Ulster TV during the eighties with the slogan "Primark, got a whole lotta things for Christmas, got a lot for the family" - it was definitly pronouned 'pree-mark' back then, however i have family in liverpool who insist on calling it 'pry-mark'.

That advert campaign (with the slogan "Penny's, got a whole lotta things..." etc) has ran every Christmas in living memory in the Irish media, until very recently. Incidently, the Primark name was apparently invented due to the company's inabillity to use Penny's outside of Ireland due to registration of the name by JC Penny.--Rdd 16:20, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

I have only ever heard the word pronounced with primary stress on the first syllable, ie /'pɹaɪmɑːk/ or /'pɹiːmɑːk/, et cetera. 130.88.85.111 (talk) 15:05, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

Well, I'm in Wigan, and it's always Pry-mark. If someone said 'Preemark' they would get very funny looks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.234.199.137 (talk) 15:35, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] More Vandalism

Removed "It is also Reilly Marshalls (of Nottingham) favourite shop, it is reported that he once spent an astonishing £11 there in one go. He purchased ten shirts, six pairs of socks, twelve t shirts and three pairs of jeans" from the article, why is this article so prone to vandalism? This comment was left by §©ʁİƃƀȴıŋ’ Ƨł₥ȫȠ ^{talk|contribs} 15:30, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] "Fat Wear"

Is there actually such a department??? Artybrad 22:47, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

No[[1]]. I will remove. This comment was left by §©ʁİƃƀȴıŋ’ Ƨł₥ȫȠ ^{talk|contribs} 17:35, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Store Structure

Is this section necessary? Is it of any interest to anyone except employees? There is nothing remarkable or significantly different compared to other retailers, and I have looked at other retailer's articles and none seem to have details regarding staff pay and low level management structure. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gandygatt (talk • contribs) 01:16, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Source?

Removing:"2009 primark are planning to make verious adverts on televison. They have recently said that they do make children make their clothes" Don't Know Whether It's Just Bad Spelling Or Just Completely False. And I Sincerely Doubt The Second Part. Give Me A Source, I Might Believe It. Until Then I'm Removing It QuietusExtraho (talk) 22:07, 8 December 2007 (UTC)