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Perhaps it should be worth mentioning that Priapus was treated with much less respect in Rome than he was treated with in Greece? - Frank Keizer

Contents 1 Satyricon 2 In The Ancient World 3 Personal essay "Modern confusion and ancient meaning" 4 Categorization 5 herm -> herma 6 Mutinus, Mutunus, or Tutinus but not Priapus 7 Depictions

[edit] Satyricon

Would it be possible for someone to add something to this article about the portrayal of Priapus and his priests in the Satyricon?

Seems like sources need to be cited on this. -JH

[edit] In The Ancient World

I find it hard to believe that the ancient Romans would prefer small penises on men. I'd love to see some citations on this.

I can see that they represented warriors, etc. with flaccid penises but had they preferred smaller penises on men, surely they would have scuplted guys with small (but obviously erect) penises? As I said, I'd love to see some citations on this.

I'm not even sure that "straight women" really care much either way about the size of men's genitalia but once again, it'd be cool to see some citations on this. (And anyway... straight women? What? ALL of them? Which country or society are we talking about?) Vince In Milan 03:27, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Personal essay "Modern confusion and ancient meaning"

I'm quite sure that if I had written this essay on the "ancient colorization [sic] of Priapus", it would have elicited reproaches of original "research" and demands for citations. Is it the amateurish character that makes this excursus on penis size and gods who can't get a date so reassuringly familiar and acceptable? --Wetman 11:40, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Categorization

Would it be appropriate to move this article from Category:Sexuality in the classical world to its newly created subcat Category:Ancient Greek eros? —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 23:55, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] herm -> herma

I'm changing herm, which links to the island, to herma, which links to the marker. I'm pretty sure that's the right place for it to go.. herma is a variant spelling of herm and I'm going with how the articles are named. Perel 03:55, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Mutinus, Mutunus, or Tutinus but not Priapus

I'm not a scholar on ancient Greek mythology, but I have done a lot of reading on it lately. It seems to me that there's a pretty clear differentiation between Mutunus (however you care to spell it) and Priapus, at least in early mythology. Mutunus was a god of fertility, sought by new brides or childless wives; Priapus a protector and sometimes a humorous exaggeration. The best I can find are secondary sources (http://www.albany.edu/faculty/lr618/1mut.html for instance), so maybe those sources are wrong. But it does seem like Mutunus should at least get a short page of his own. Revdrace 08:18, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Depictions

Under the Depictions subsection, the following translation of an epigram is provided:

"I warn you, my lad, you will be sodomised; you, my girl, I shall futter; for the thief who is bearded, a third punishment remains."

No source is identified for the above quote, and I'm questioning the word "futter," since I can't find a definition or even a listing for such a word. Among other sources, I searched via the Oxford English Dictionary and the closest word I found was regarding "futter" as the early spelling representing the pronunciation of Maori whata, a food-store raised on posts.

The Maori word makes no sense in this context, at all. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Neddy merrill (talk • contribs) 00:33, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

"Futter" is apparently a coining of Sir Richard Francis Burton, deriving from the Latin word "futuere", "to fuck". Presumably it was a bowdlerisation of the true meaning of the word. At any rate, I've replaced the existing unsourced quotation with a translation from a modern source, along with the original Latin. -- ChrisO 01:02, 9 November 2007 (UTC)