Talk:President of Mongolia

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[edit] President Only

I would argue that the current set-up does not reflect reality all that well and consequently would propose that this page only deals with people who actually held the title "President of Mongolia" (e.g. since 1990) and move the rest to Head of State of Mongolia. Without objection posted here on the talk page i will start implementing this in a weeks time.

Sources mentioning the current President of Mongolia as the 3rd

Additionally the Mongolian Wikipedia only mentions 3 presidents. -- Inmongolia 08:48, 28 July 2007 (UTC) Edited: Inmongolia 09:30, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

Does the specific title really matter that much? The name of the role has changed several times, as is explained in the article, so there is not really any danger of confusion. Actually, I think that splitting the article would cause more confusion. Note that the situation is very similar with the Prime minister of Mongolia, although that article explains what the government thinks about it. Do we have any information about the current governement position wrt. presidents/heads of state? --Latebird 09:14, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

Thank you Latebird for the comments. First of all i need to indicate that i was editing my initial paragraph while you posted your comment. I am not sure if the mentioning of the sources would affect your opinion, but for me they do convey a point. And I do believe that the specific title matters. Either someone has been President and belongs on this page, or not. For the Soviet Union a distinction is made between General_Secretary_of_the_Communist_Party_of_the_Soviet_Union and President_of_the_Soviet_Union --Inmongolia 10:14, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

I'd still be interested in the official Mongolian position. And if you really think that the exact title is so important, then you might end up with half a dozen pages, some listing a very small number of people. Could you maybe imagine to just split the table within the same article to show that something changed in between? Btw: I'm not saying that your proposal is necessarily wrong, I just don't quite see the forcing point yet. --Latebird 13:18, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
List of German presidents since 1919 does contain a number of East German leaders (Vorsitzende des Staatsrats) who did not hold the title of president. But since in this Mongolian list the vast majority apparently did not hold this title, what about moving the whole thing to List of Mongolian heads of state since 1921 or something similar?
btw. even in communist countries, Party and State were (nominally) still different things Yaan 08:28, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

I think at the inauguration ceremony Enkhbayar was initiated as the 3rd president, would that define the official Mongolian position? I like Yaan's proposal to take the list to a separate page. Inmongolia 15:30, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

I'm for moving the whole list, incl. presidents, but not necessarily incl. MPRP general secretaries. Yaan 16:53, 2 August 2007 (UTC)