Talk:Post-micturition convulsion syndrome

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[edit] Thermodynamics

While speaking in terms of physics, the body loses a good amount of heat energy when urine is expelled. That's just as a note but, if anyone can put it in better terms, give it a shot.Killerrobotdude 05:55, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

There is no ∆t. The body used energy to warm the urine that's undeniable, but releasing urine doesn't mean the body will suffer from any "heat-loss". If you have a glass of warm water, removing some of it doesn't change its temperature. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.78.240.51 (talk) 15:36, September 25, 2006
You are assuming the bodies temperature is homogenous, which it isn't. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.61.36.107 (talk) 09:27, February 11, 2007
How does sweating work then? - Stoph 06:15, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
"Evaporation of sweat from the skin surface has a cooling effect due to the latent heat of evaporation of water" according to the Wikipedia article on sweating. That's why you can always cool a bottle of your favourite beverage when you're out in the sun by wrapping it in a wet towel. As the towel dries it uses energy also from the warm bottle which in losing energy becomes colder. __meco 07:15, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] way off topic

this is why i love wikipedia. what other encyclopedia has the term 'piss shivers'?? GypsieSoul420 (formerly gypsie) 03:06, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Credit Where It's Due

I believe George Carlin was the first person (in Pop culture at least) to notice and comment upon the Piss Shiver.

Basesurge 18:55, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Pee Shivers

The internet poll you quoted now reflects that only 3% of females experience this -- so the spermazoa reference of "majority of females" is inaccurate. Not sure an internet poll is a reliable means to query, or one worth quoting.... Regardless, I've found very few women who know what 'pee shivers' are and even fewer who've experienced them...not that my experiences are any more valid or worthy of a reference...:) thx. [posted 17:01, 7 July 2007 from IP 69.76.220.152]

>The internet poll you quoted now reflects that only 3% of females experience this
This is to misunderstand the poll. The 3% shown in the poll represent 3% of the total number of reponders to the poll. In fact, the total percentage of reponders identifying their sex as female is 5% (or, currently, more than 1200 females). 3% of 5% is a majority, currently about 59% when you do the calculations.
>Not sure an internet poll is a reliable means to query, or one worth quoting
It's all I am aware of in this under-researched topic.

Robert P. O'Shea 08:33, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Reliable sources?

I love Uncle Cecil dearly, and have what at one point were all of the Straight Dope books, but he cites no source for his information other than discussion on a Usenet newsgroup. That's not what I'd call a reliable source. I am all for researching this, but this is not a place for original research, so I have pruned this article back. William Pietri 05:34, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

There is a difference between a fact and a theory. A fact, such as a piss shiver's being accompanied by a rise in blood pressure, requires citation of a study in which blood pressure was monitored during and following urination. There might well be such a study, and the onus is on the person who added that fact to provide the citation. A theory, such as a piss shiver's being caused by the passage of sperm, does not need a citation as long as it is reasonable. One could cite the author of the theory, but it is not necessary. Robert P. O'Shea (talk) 05:16, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Is it only when urinating?

Because speaking personally, it occasionally happens to me during those "other" times as well.