Talk:Ponsonby, New Zealand

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[edit] Too much timeline data???

An amazing load of data. But encyclopedical??? MadMaxDog 11:11, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

I don't have a problem with us keeping the timeline information itself, but I agree it slightly overwhelms the rest of the article. Should we move it to a new home, say Timeline of Ponsonby history? -- Avenue 12:42, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
I'd rather see it turned into prose in the History section, but that will also become too long for the article, and should be moved to History of Ponsonby. I realise that's a lot of work, so moving it to Timeline of Ponsonby history would be fine for the time being. Note that many of the references should be moved along with this section.-gadfium 23:36, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
Agreed - have added citation tag as well as in-text citations help with verifiability Goldfinger820 02:30, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
The {{unreferenced}} tag is not appropriate for an article which cites many references. I realise you want inline refs, and that would be an improvement, but it's simply not true to say the article is unreferenced.-gadfium 02:37, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Response to Gadfium

Hi Gadfium, you changed the article by putting the first "Ponsonby" back into the list, saying that "Bennet" (friend of yours?) added it. DID he have this as a reference in the non-inline list that is provided at the bottom? If not, what distinguishes it from original research? Not trying to be holier-than-thou, but as I noted, my reference notes only the last three Ponsonby's. MadMaxDog 07:18, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

I don't know Edward Bennett personally, but I regard him as a reliable editor (he's the historian who runs the K'Rd walks), and he cited his sources non-inline. While it would be preferable to cite each point inline, the standard of referencing of this article is still above average for Wikipedia. If you still want to delete the mention of Henry Ponsonby, I won't revert again.-gadfium 09:05, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
No worries, I know that citing any references at all is still above par for much of Wikipedia, its true, sadly. I guess we can assume that he added it on a more substantial basis than his own opinion. MadMaxDog 09:33, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
Gee, that still sounds pretty snobbish for someone who wouldn't have been able to tell a Ponsonby Road from a Possum three years ago (me). Still, its the definition of OR, isn't it? But as I was meaning to say, its likely that the reference for the fourth Ponsonby is somewhere in the non-inline sources. MadMaxDog 09:37, 2 May 2007 (UTC)