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Dennis Oliver

Dear Pigman: The deletion of the article about Dennis Oliver was deeply painful to me. It was done with a huge effort and a lot of love, trying to create the best article for a such special place as wikipedia is. Dennis is also a very good well known actor from the spanish community with a good record in the spanish theatre world, all the statements were clearly supported by the newspaper articles linked to it, pictures and several records. I hope you can help me to restore the article. Thank you Ralicia —Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.202.79.218 (talk) 20:57, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Dear pigman thank you for your answer. I will please ask you to review the article. Dennis Oliver has been part of very important roles, including the one as a director assistant ( it is clearly proved by the link to the newspaper congratulating Dennis). He has also been part of the ACE AWARD WINNER group as you can see in the picture included in the article. Again, I beg you to reconsider in restoring the article. thank you very much RaliciaRalicia (talk) 14:24, 25 April 2008 (UTC)Ralicia

  • I have restored the article. G4 specifically only applies when the prior article was deleted through AfD and excludes prior CSDs. Thatcher 18:38, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

Jennifer Johnston

You just speedily deleted what appeared to be a good, but recently vandalized, article as I was reverting to the last good version using Twinkle. Please restore the history to keep GFDL concerns satisfied. --Onorem♠Dil 02:18, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Yep, I was hoping you'd restore the history. Twinkle must have been in the process of reverting while you were in the process of deleting. The result was that I'm the only one in the non-admin visible history...but I've never contributed to the article other than one other recent revert. --Onorem♠Dil 02:25, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
Looks good, thank you...and I'm all for deleting first and asking questions later when it comes to attack pages. --Onorem♠Dil 02:32, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Why did you delete my page?

Media:Example.ogg I believe that my page should be restored. I have been on a recording album and have been in music videos, and thats just the entertainment side. Please explain further why you deleted me . Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by 168.12.253.66 (talk) 17:56, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Unfortunately, I have no idea which article you are talking about. You need to give me a name and/or sign in to Wikipedia. Pigman☿ 18:18, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Copyright Infringement

Who really cares?

Get a life —Preceding unsigned comment added by Goonermike (talk • contribs) 12:22, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

Block of User:Robinepowell

Hey, I happened to notice on ANI your blocking of the above-mentioned user, and then your extension from 1 week to 2 weeks... but looking at the template on her talk page, it still only says 1 week. I was just wondering if you should correct the block template to reflect this (not an admin here, not criticizing the block, just hoping to be helpful to both sides and avoid confusion). Best, --Umrguy42 (talk) 04:43, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Re: Block of User:69.215.149.59

Cheers! ZsinjTalk 01:41, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Cecily Grey

Pigman, the new title of Cecily Grey is fine by me. Thanks for the message.jeanne (talk) 14:01, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

David Motari

Hello. I'd like to request that the deleted article for David Motari be made available to me, either via my talk page, or off wiki. I am compiling information for a report in my college, and would appreciate the information that was provided. Thank you. JSD324 (talk) 01:25, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

HisKids

What? Do you know how long I spent researching that article? It was deleted before because it was just an url (Hiskids.net), but this was a notable well written article with links, references, programs etc. Why do you think that it took so long to be deleted? It was notable in most eyes. Would you consider undeletion (or there went hours and hours of time). Thanks -- AmericanEagle 18:52, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Oh yes, could you put it here? I could see if I could come with more info and such to make it more notable. I did spend some time on that, and I don't want to have to remember and rewrite it all. Thanks -- AmericanEagle 23:48, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
Thanks -- AmericanEagle 01:29, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Copyediting

Hi! I'm a major contributor to the article Civil Air Patrol, at FAC now at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Featured_article_candidates/Civil_Air_Patrol. I noticed you were listed as an active member on the League of Copyeditors, and there have been some concerns raised over the tone and prose of the article. I'm too close to the text to be able to see the issues in language presented. I wondered if you could help make some major copyedits to the article so that it can be made into Featured Article quality. —  scetoaux (T|C) 02:30, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

ANI

Hey Pigman,

I hope you didn't think I was accusing you of bad faith or tendentious behavior. Ordinarily, I would agree that there's nothing wrong with trying to pick out a little cohesion in the process and discussion. What makes it look inappropriate, though, is your heavy involvement in the matter. I know, because I know you to be a good faith and reasonable editor, that you are not trying to "corral votes" or anything like that, but Badger Drink's post highlighted the fact that it might look like that. You are confident in what you are doing, and I salute you for that -- just be careful that the way in which you do it is politick enough that doesn't leave you looking compromised.

Cheers - Revolving Bugbear 16:47, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

User:Ekajati

You may fill me in if you have time, but that's up to you. I suspect it's a long story. I just saw an issue (the copyright red herring) that looked like it needed to be addressed. I am not an admin, but I work with some admins, and I've taken to using the WP:ANI and WP:AIV pages when necessary, and also to monitoring them and discussing issues with admins, so I guess I'm doing some admin activities without actually being an admin. :) The one thing I would like to know is what the relationship is, if any, between that banned user and the guy who tried to canvas via e-mail and got caught. I don't think they're the same guy, but there's definitely some kind of symbiosis going on there, or at least it seems so on the surface. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 21:07, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Yes, I saw that stupid "gangrape" comment and wondered why he didn't get a short-term block then and there. That kind of thinking is one reason why it would be risky for me to be an admin. The main reason I don't want the job is because of the obvious drudgery that you allude to. And that would likely give me a quick trigger finger. When I read stuff like that, I'm thinking (and have sometimes said), "Why are you fooling around with this guy?" If someone's being a jerk, slap a 24-hour block on him and let him cool down. And if that doesn't work, double it, and so on, until he gets the point. There are plenty more issues to deal with, and there is no constitutional right to edit wikipedia. There seems to be what I call a "California mentality", or maybe a "liberal mentality" (which is funny, coming from one who considers himself liberal) of giving a jerk every possible break. I'm a midwesterner, and don't suffer fools gladly. It's not that hard to tell sincerity from trolling. I must point out that I've been blocked a couple of times myself - and deserved it, for being a jerk, which few who are blocked will admit to. A short term block is good. It's a weapon that should be used much more often than it is. But as a user, one good thing I've learned is to resist fighting. It's the old adage, "Don't get mad, get even." Give "good faith" a reasonable try, and then take the issue to one of those two admin sites and let the experts handle it. Since I started doing that, things have gone much better. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 23:20, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
Enough of my narcissistic rant. Thank you for offering your assistance. :) One more comment about the IP address. I've seen users trying to "help" other users who might actually have been playing the opposite game, of actually trying to torpedo them with too much "friendly" support. If Rosencomet understood that better, he might have said something like, "Friends like that, I don't need!" Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 23:31, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
I have often been accused of "not assuming good faith". Well, I wasn't born yesterday, and I can tell sincerity from fooling around. My usual approach is that if someone makes one stupid change, I might do nothing. If they make two, I issue a warning, and if they do it a third time, I turn them in, on another assumption: that they can read, and that by ignoring a sincere warning, they have forfeited their right to "good faith" assumption. However, as noted above, I'm also in favor of short blocks initially, and increasing the "sentence" for repeat offenders. It gets trickier with shared IP's, but as one admin told me, at some point you can block until "the end of the semester" (as was done recently with Walt Disney). You're right, I shouldn't limit it to California, it can be broadened out to a coastal thing, and it's a culture clash. Meanwhile, there are vandals everywhere, indiscriminately. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 03:40, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Rosencomet's last entry to this point [1] about a day and half ago, also hints at the thought that "Friends like this I don't need!" Now it remains to be seen whether he has learned anything from all this or not. That will be up to the admins to determine, I reckon. Meanwhile, I would say you're right to leave the IP's comments and my challenges in place. The main thing was that I thought it would reduce the clutter in that megillah. Although I've seen sections much longer than that in ANI, such as those connected with the user called David Shankbone, a useful contributor whose approach has apparently alienated many. That one is a tough call. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 04:12, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your support and encouragement. I've been doing wikipedia for about 3 years now, and finally in the last few months I feel like I've matured as a contributor. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 04:20, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Possible COI on one's own entry.

Paul,

Got your message. As an old hand at writing encyclopedia entries in print, I will do my best to keep my personal entry objective, factual, and dry.

Whoever created it did not make a bad start, but s/he did not have a copy of my c.v. to check. There are still some small bibliographic errors that need correcting.

cheers,

Chas


Chas S. Clifton (talk) 20:25, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

thanks for the quick response. I am done with correcting the bibliographic stuff for the time being.

I don't know what material could need "footnotes or citations." Am I supposed to link to the department web site to show that I actually teach at CSU-Pueblo??

Chas S. Clifton (talk) 00:05, 26 May 2008 (UTC)