Talk:Philippines campaign (1944–45)

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Contents 1 Is this a joke? 2 Accuracy issues 3 New Zealand 4 Commonwealth

[edit] Is this a joke?

"1500 killed, wounded, or captured" --HanzoHattori 11:20, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

I've inserted some casualty figures Hawkeye7 10:12, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Accuracy issues

I've noticed throughout the Filipino campaign articles that obscene Japanese casualty figures are generally accepted at face value. This is ridiculous on several levels, most basically that even in a situation where a body count could be conducted enemy deaths have been known to be inflated by a factor of five or ten. See numerous articles over in the Vietnam War section of Wikipedia for ample proof of that. I doubt that the command climate of any operation with Douglas MacArthur in charge would result in a tendency to look at these kind of reports skeptically. Has anyone done rigorous, citable research on the battle and particularly on Japanese casualties of it that could inject some sanity into this? In too many of these battles Japanese deaths are found by subtracting documented Japanese survivors at the end of the war from a number of Japanese troops there at the beginning of the operation that has usually been found by the shadiest kind of number crunching possible and that's obviously not acceptable to write history beyond triumphialist propaganda.

I also note that American casualties from tropical diseases, which were massive, have been left out of the article. Finding a citation for this shouldn't be difficult, it's in the official US Army history IIRC.

Furthermore, some editor (presumably a wild nationalist) has been putting up the entire Filipino populations of the islands in question as "Filipino Troops" in the infoboxes. This is vandalism and I will deal with it as such. Kensai Max 21:32, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

I've noticed the same thing as far as the adding of incredibly large numbers of Filipino troops, etc. to most of these articles, and have reverted them several times now. As for the issue with Japanese casualties, if someone can find a better, more accurate source, I have no problem with adding it.Parsecboy 23:30, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

user:125.60.243.104 has been at this again. Does someone with a better idea of the history of their edits want to nominate that the account be blocked? --Nick Dowling 11:18, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

Checked and blocked for one week. Very naughty person/s using that IP. Cheers, Grant | Talk 14:40, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] New Zealand

What was the extent of New Zealand involvement in this theatre? The Australians left North Africa when Japan entered the war, but the New Zealand 2nd division stayed on and fought up through Italy. George Smyth XI (talk) 15:50, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Commonwealth

Please give more details about Australian, British, and New Zealand participation in this campaign. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.107.52.18 (talk) 01:45, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

The only British participation in this campaign was a ship called the RFA Bishopdale (A128). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.107.159.125 (talk) 11:24, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

Both of the Royal Australian Navy's heavy cruisers and some destroyers and covettes took part in the campaign along with some air force airfield construction and intelligence units. There was almost no British and no NZ involvement - this seems to have been an invention by our 'friend' the IP editor who has now moved into outright vandalism. Nick Dowling (talk) 12:11, 31 May 2008 (UTC)