Talk:Phenom (processor)

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[edit] AM2+

Will these be on AM2+? Irdepesca572 21:18, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

-Never mind, it will be [1]

[edit] After socket F, comes socket G

Inq No socket 1207+, but Socket G

P.S. I'll let you guys decide whether this is credited source or not. --202.40.137.202 06:16, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Not Only AM2+

According to the August 2007 issue of MaximumPC they report that the Phenom incl. the FX will also run on most AM2 sockets. Is this true? (I do believe MPC as a creditable source. --∑ssarege∑ 01:39, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Almost everything in this article is speculations and rumors...right?

According to the AM2 and AM2+ articles, AM2+ processors will run on socket AM2. At the moment, all but two models of Phenom are AM2+, which should work in socket AM2 (unless the AM2 and AM2+ articles are incorrect). There are also two socket F Phenoms, i have no idea whether or not they will run on AM2 mobo's. Bonez0r 19:09, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
No Socket F part will work in a Socket AM2 (or AM2+, or AM3) motherboard. Socket F is LGA, the others are PGA. It would not be physically possible. Ars seemed less than certain that Phenom parts will work in Socket AM2 motherboards; I would imagine chipset compatibility could be an issue even if they are socket-compatible. — Aluvus t/c 21:53, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] model numbers

for the GP-6650, GP-6550 if the TDP figure is correct and they're using the scheme noted on the k10 article AMD K10

wouldn't they be GS-6650, GS-6550 followed by GE-6's? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 216.30.171.130 (talk • contribs).

If you have sources which can provide better model number information, please make any needed changes to the aritlce. Just make sure you include reference links to show where the data came from. I wouldn't trust the K10 article for your source but the references used for the data there can be used over here. --StuffOfInterest 11:05, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

Does the athlon 1-series belong on the models table? it's listed as being based on the lima core which would put it with the cities processors rather than the stars processors. This suggest it has nothing to do with k-10/phenom architecture which is the subject of this article. 216.30.171.130 22:27, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] New Names for Phenom

http://www.vr-zone.com/articles/AMD_Revised_Desktop_Model_Number_Structure/5330.htmlTMV943 11:50, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

also http://news.softpedia.com/news/AMD-Launches-New-Desktop-Processors-67990.shtml can't tell if they're using the vr-zone article as a source or it's their own confirmation. 216.30.171.130 01:40, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

Just saw another link: http://www.vr-zone.com/articles/Quad-Core_Phenom_Models_%26_Clocks_Revealed/5331.html This one has model numbers for the 9xxx and FX-8x products. It looks like most if not all of the information is already in the article table, but this link may work as a reference. --StuffOfInterest 15:45, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

I already added that link to the "External Links" section -- Imperator3733 16:20, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
It really needs to move to an inline citation. This will tie the link to the place in the article it applies to. Also, this way, once the information is replaced the reference will go away with that informaiton. --StuffOfInterest 16:53, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Possible page rename?

Should this page maybe be renamed to AMD Phenom? It's a bit more discriptive than the current title and is closer to AMD K10, AMD Fusion, etc. Let me know what you think. -- Imperator3733 15:32, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Shortest name is probably the best. Look at the Intel Pentium as an example. --StuffOfInterest 15:34, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Phenom 9700 and 9900 delayed further

Ars technica suggests that the release of Phenom 9700 and 9900 will be Q2 2008. http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080110-amd-pushes-phenom-9700-into-q2-preps-low-power-variant.html

203.91.84.7 (talk) 11:23, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] First quad core design?

"AMD considers the quad core Phenoms to be the first true quad core design" - That should better be "the first true x86 quad core design". I guess the RISC world is a step further on that topic. Boelthorn (talk) 12:58, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

Well, despite whether or not what AMD says is true, Wikipedia is quoting AMD. So as long as AMD said it, that's the way it should be. Although you should definitely make a note on the article if AMD was wrong.(Myscrnnm (talk) 14:23, 29 March 2008 (UTC))

[edit] Pronunciation

The IPA listed on the page says that Phenom is pronounced "fay-nom." I'm guessing that it should be pronounced "fee-nom"; anyone have any more insight on this? If not, I'll change the IPA to reflect the common English pronunciation. grylliade (talk) 07:55, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

I thought it was 'feh-nom' as in phenomenon Lovefist233 (talk) 08:29, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
I say 'fee-nom' -- Imperator3733 (talk) 03:08, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Information about B2 and future steppings needed!

from 'issues':

 "Phenom is affected by this bug up to and including stepping B2. [...]"

Oh great! Now everything is clear ;)

Seriously: I think someone who knows, what exactly the B2 and B3 steppings are, should not only explain this in the article, but also mention the fact, that phenoms B3 will no longer have this bug anymore (click here) And were there any B1-stepped phenoms?

Many thanks in advice to everyone, who contribute this information!!! 217.185.164.132 (talk) 20:51, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

I presume there were B1 steppings otherwise there wouldn't have been B2. Whether these were publicly released, I don't know but I think the answer is no Nil Einne (talk) 14:03, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
No Phenoms with steppings earlier than B2 other than engineering samples. There may have been some B1 Opterons out but either only as ES or they were quickly replaced by BA. B2 Opterons were canned and delivered as Phenoms it seems. --Denniss (talk) 14:34, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] AMD K10 and Phenom

I wonder why there are two separate articles as the Phenom is basically the official name of the K10 CPU. I thin those articles could be merged 217.184.64.92 (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 01:38, 9 June 2008 (UTC)