Talk:Pervasive developmental disorder

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Thank you, Karada. I agree that the text you removed sounded "wrong", I felt the same way but didn't dare to remove it, being a newbie and not wanting to anger people on my first day as a Wikipedian. --Woggly 10:59, 25 Mar 2004 (UTC)


No problems. Some general principles:

  • Obvious nonsense: just cut it out.
  • Dubious or disputable: cut it out, and copy it to the talk page with a comment about why you removed it.
  • Controversial (i.e. you think it's wrong, but know that some others will disagree) move to talk as above, then discuss on the talk page with other users as needed.

If you set your preferences to add articles you edit to your watchlist, replies to your comments will automatically pop up in your watchlist. -- Karada 11:07, 25 Mar 2004 (UTC)

"PDD is not fatal and does not affect normal life expectancy." Does suicide count? Asperger's Syndrome says "People with AS attempt suicide at a staggeringly high rate in comparison to the general population, although whether this is due to AS or depression comorbid to AS is a matter of debate." Tualha 21:40, 31 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Since moved to Conditions comorbid to autism spectrum disorders. Tualha (Talk) 04:07, 30 July 2005 (UTC)

I'd recommend including some references to research demonstrating a correlation between PDD and suicides etc, instead of links to the pages of those words' definitions. 217.166.66.2 (talk) 08:25, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] New content

I added content about a treatment that I read about at http://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=46768.

I felt that it was an important sounding new alternative and couldn't see that it would be too controversal. I also included a link to http://www.responsiveteaching.org/ (usigned, contributed by IP User: 24.18.191.84 )

I disagree. This reads like ad copy. Other, more common therapies with more research to back them are not listed here yet (such as ABA or Sensory Integration), listing only this one therapy gives a false impression of treatment options. --Woggly 09:25, 14 January 2006 (UTC)


An interesting treatment that we have been using (with great success) with my daughter, who is PDD/NOS, is NIDS http://nids.net/. We use the clinic in Northern NY http://www.nidsnnyclinic.org/ The whole basis of this being Neuro and immunological makes a lot of sense. Worth reading up on if someone wants to run with it, be my guest.

[edit] Merge with Autistic spectrum?

I was told by a professional in the autism community that PDD is know being refered as Autism Spectrum Disorder. Can someone clarify this for me. --JFred 22:12, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

Nevermind. According to this, there are a few pervasive developmental disorders that are not part of the autistic spectrum. --JFred 22:17, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] I just don't understand.

Everything I've ever read or heard about autism, including everything on Wikipedia, indicates that it is primarily a social condition; that persons with autism don't develop normal social skills. My best friend's child (I think of him as my nephew, though there is no blood relationship) has just been diagnosed with Pervasive Developmental Disorder. His mother says the doctor told her it is a very mild form of autism.

I know this child well, and spend a lot of time with him and his mother. No one who spends even five minutes with this child can deny that his development is simply not normal. When she first said PDD, I said, "well, that's sort of like when someone goes to their doctor and says they are tired all the time and the doctor diagnoses them with Chronic Fatigue Syndrom." That's when she said no, it is an actual diagnosis, it is a mild form of autism.

But this child, while his development is certianly not normal, I don't believe he is autistic. He is almost 3, and his primary developmental delays seem to be that he cannot yet walk, and he cannot yet talk. However, except for the complete lack of language abilities, he seems to interact normally with other children and adults. His body language and facial expressions are not impaired, he recognizes people and is genuinly glad to see them, he smiles, laughs, crys, etc. in a normal fashion. He also seems to understand other people's body language. He loves to cuddle, kiss, and generally do all the social things that autistic kids generally do not do. Moreover, it seems that delayed motor skills are not a major function of autism or PDD, but the delayed motor skills are even more pronounced in this child than the delayed communication.

I know Wikipedia talk pages aren't the right location for this... I just don't understand, and was hoping the article could increase my understanding. And it didn't. ONUnicorn 15:18, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

PDD is not a mild form of autism. PDD is a general category that encompasses the whole range of autism as well as other disorders. In a way, a PDD diagnosis is like saying, "it looks a little bit like autism, but not quite, so it may be something else". Often a PDD diagnosis is given when some but not all symptoms of autism are present. A child could exhibit withdrawal, lack of social skills and developmental delays for a variety of reasons, not all of which resolve into autism. Children who are malnourished, abused or neglected, and children with undiagnosed sensory deficits such as deafness or poor proprioception can sometimes exhibit autistic-like traits. The Wikipedia article in its current form looks pretty sound from a scientific standpoint, but I agree that a layman would have trouble understanding what it's all about. If you think PDD is confusing, think of the poor parents who have to make sense of a diagnosis like MSDD. By the way, I've never heard of an adult with a PDD diagnosis. That's partly because it is a relatively new diagnosis, but partly because as kids grow and continue to develop it is usually possible to reach a more precise diagnosis. --woggly 15:55, 20 June 2006 (UTC)