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Would you let us know the full name of Saint Andronik of Perm, the new Martyr? He was the archbishop of Perm when the Russian Revolution rose in 1917. I suppose its spelling is Andronik Nikolisky, but I couldn't find any source in latin arphabet. He is refered in Japanese Orthodox Church. Cheers. --Aphaea 22:56, 30 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Never heard about that guy. Will research. Grue 05:52, 31 Oct 2004 (UTC)

This page: [1] seems to contain his biography. His real name was Vladimir Nikolsky. Grue 06:19, 31 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Thank you. --Aphaea 17:01, 31 Oct 2004 (UTC)

[edit] perm 36?

http://www.wmf.org/html/PDF/gulag.pdf GULAG camp; if i've heard correctly, the only one still around/converted into museum.

http://www.perm36.ru/sql/aeng/eng/index.htm about former camp «Perm-36»

[edit] Move?

I'm strongly against the move. Perm is one of the most important cities of the world and should stay here.  Grue  19:25, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

My rationale for the move was as follows (but I'm very open to being persuaded otherwise):

1. When I think of "perm", I immediately think of the hairstyle - in fact, I'd never heard of the city until I came across it here.
2. As the majority of users of Wikipedia are Western, I imagine that the article on the city in Russia would be of little interest.
3. The hair article is longer and more comprehensive.
4. There are many other permutations of "perm" (mind the pun) so I thought a disambig page would fit best.

As I said, I'm willing to be persuaded otherwise and will certainly not revert war over this. --Celestianpower ^háblame 23:53, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

If Perm were a small town I would agree, but it is a city of over a million people. I think its reasonably famous in the West too. If one knows, say, twenty Russian cities, it would certainly get on the list. Imagine there were a hair-style called Cincinatti or Glasgow; I dont think it would be given precedence over the city of the same name.

Typical Russian mania grandiosa. Perm has less than a million people for several years. See here. --84.50.157.67 23:12, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

Words «Typical Russian mania grandiosa» looks like discrimination and insulting lot of people. Wikipedia not a place for it. And, actually Perm is more than one million people city, because statistics on your site is old and not full. I am strongly against move, Perm is a city — perm is only hair; people more important than hair. User:AT 15:00, 4 February 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.211.3.86 (talk)

However, it is certainly true that many English-speakers who search for "perm" want to find an article about the hair-style so Ive put a disambig link at the top as an experiment. Does that look OK for everybody? Jameswilson 02:01, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

User:Celestianpower's version looks good. Id forgotten about the unit of peremeability LOL. Jameswilson

From this, I can't see that there's much support for the city being here - when and why was it moved again? Regards, —Celestianpower ^háblame 22:34, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

It was never moved anywhere since I reverted your previous attempt. If you really want to move this, start a formal WP:RM request, and so on, but I'll do my best so the move doesn't happen.  Grue  07:14, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Layout

The layout of the page is as ugly and off-putting as it can be. Please remove either the template or some of the images. --Ghirla^-трёп- 23:29, 29 July 2007 (UTC)