Talk:Pederastic couples in classical antiquity

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About Sources, Hello ! I would be very glad if you did specify the source of " Prokleides and Hipparchus " , at least as " Suda ". Hadrianvs et antinovs (talk) 19:09, 30 January 2008 (UTC)hadrianvs et antinovs

I am traveling and do not have my sources handy. I will look it up when I get back to my office. Haiduc (talk) 22:21, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Nero and Sporus

Even if the whole sensationalist story was true, this case doesn't belong to the definition of pederasty. It's almost as classifying a relatioonship between a man and a boyish looking woman "pederastic", too. Can we, please, leave that out? Fulcher (talk) 01:17, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

My preference is to err on the side of inclusion. There are some pretty hideous examples in here, and you could ask "what kind of love is that?!" but the fact is that these people, Nero included, were driven to their actions by erotic desire. Sporus was a pretty boy who got castrated. I do not see why that makes him less of a boy. Bagoas was castrated also, and he is in here also. There may be others. We need to be careful not to demonize pederastic relationships, but by the same token we need to not prettify them either. Haiduc (talk) 01:43, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

Well, this time I wasn't so motivated by my kind of "political correctness", more by the definition of pederasty, which says something about adolescent boys and I don't know how adolescent eunuch can be (more like "ex-adolescent"). Of course, there are also castrations, which are more "radical" and others "less" - don't know how it was this time, IF the whole thing was true and not so much a fabricated story that gives an unpopular emperor an worse name, which I suspect very much in this case (similar like the story of "fish-kids" in Tiberius bath). 84.150.224.42 (talk) 05:44, 15 March 2008 (UTC)