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[edit] Checkuser

I see you've read my mind and opened up a checkuser regarding Tom.mevlie, WilliamMThompson and last night's SPAs. Just earlier today I posted a long rant, complete with additional proof of my convictions, to this page here in case you want to add to your summary. The common misspellings ("besmerching", "loose") and similar editing times are further damning, I think. Hopefully this can be taken care of once and for all. María (habla conmigo) 19:12, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Good observations, at this point I think his identity has been proven beyond any reasonable doubt, but since the RFCU has been filed I'll wait for it to play out before acting. Pax:Vobiscum (talk) 23:17, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

FYI - Wikipedia:ANI#User:WilliamMThompson_suicide_post--Doug.^{(talk • contribs)} 08:50, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Tom mevlie sock

My apologies for contacting you like this, but there might be a problem. Please see Wikipedia:Administrator's noticeboard/Incidents#User:WilliamMThompson suicide post regarding the above party. If you or anyone have any idea where this party is editing from, it would help us find out which Foundation branch office to contact regarding this at least potentially real threat. John Carter (talk) 15:13, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

I don't see how we could do anything more at this point. The only way we can handle threats of violence is by blocking. Pax:Vobiscum (talk) 15:27, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Well, in the past, we also notify the local police in cases like this. Or potentially the Foundation. But the main foundation office in the US is closed weekends. If there were any way to find out where the user is based from, we could at least tell the local police there about the potentially possible suicide threat. John Carter (talk) 15:47, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

I wasn't aware of any such policy or guideline, but I still don't think there is anything we can do. We know he's from Australia, but what can we do, tell Australian authorities that someone somewhere might be thinking of committing suicide? Pax:Vobiscum (talk) 20:59, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

I don't really know if it's ever been "formalized" as a policy or guideline, because it really doesn't happen that often. But that's what's been done in the past when they were a bit more forthcoming about their real names and/or locations. I've dropped a note to the Foundation now. In these circumstances, I honestly think that is almost literally all we can do. John Carter (talk) 21:23, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

WP:VIOLENCE covers this, though it is but an essay.--Doug.^{(talk • contribs)} 05:35, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Doc Thompson

Not that I doubt WilliamMThompson is a sock of tom.mevlie, but what was the final straw in this instance? The tom.mevlie sockpuppet page doesn't even list Will at all, and I sorta think it should, so people who wander across him can see what was the damning beat of that infernal heart! Howa0082 (talk) 01:00, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

I added information to the talk page, but it's easy to miss. His identity was confirmed by a checkuser and several other accounts were discovered. Pax:Vobiscum (talk) 01:16, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Dave and Etruscans

Thanks pax. Actually, I am doing Etruscans. There was so much incidental baloney on them that I found I had to help straighten all that out first before I could go further. I was going to work back to it. Let me give it some thought. Thanks so much.Dave (talk) 00:31, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks for the protection

here :) TRAVELLINGCARI^{My story}_{Tell me yours} 14:56, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

No problem, my pleasure. :) Pax:Vobiscum (talk) 00:22, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] My RFA has closed

My RFA that you weighed in on earlier has closed as no consensus to promote, at a final tally of 120/47/13. I thank you for your feedback and comments there, and I'm going to be considering all the various advice and comments presented. I might end up at RFA again some day, or not. If you see me there again in the future, perhaps you might consider a Support !vote. If not, not, and no hard feelings. The pen is still mightier than the mop! See you around, and thanks again. Lawrence § t/e 18:21, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] One More Adoption

Are you interested in taking on another student? I looked through the list of adopters and your description seemed be the closest to what I am most interested in on WP. I look forward to your reply?--Adamfinmo (talk) 06:04, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Hey Pax. Is there a place where I can find a list of WP essays and/or a master list of all WP short cuts, like WP:Vandal, WP:Not etc. I have run across stuff in the past and I can't remember how to get back to some stuff.--Adam in MO Talk 03:44, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

Thank you very much. Those are very valueable. Adam in MO Talk 00:02, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] request for protection of Mujahideen

Hi, I saw that you acted to protect the Mujahideen article last time content disputes in the Bosnia and Herzegovina section got out of hand. This is now the case again (probably because the Bosnian mujahideen article has been protected for the same reasons). I have made a request for protection and would appreciate if you could look into / consider it. CheersOsli73 (talk) 15:26, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Liz Fuller

I have noticed you have locked the Liz Fuller page and i would like to edit some of the information to make it upto date. Her website is www.lizfuller.com and is updated weekly sometimes. Wiki is not upto date. Can you let me edit? P —Preceding unsigned comment added by Msellis (talk • contribs) 15:59, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Protection request for Sandra Lee (cook)

Thanks for looking at my request for page protection. I'm not sure I understand your response though, "Blocking should be used when only a low number of IPs are involved." What do you suggest instead? --Ronz (talk) 16:53, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Jeremiah Wright protection

Instead of protecting a high-profile page for an insane 3 months, why not block the Special:Contributions/Tallicfan20 guilty party, who totaled something like six reverts in 24 hours? Grsz^talk 21:26, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

I obviously don't intend the full protection to last 3 months, it will be lifted as soon as some kind of solution has been found. I merely kept the date of the earlier protection to make it easier to restore the semi-protection (with the original expiry date) once the full protection is lifted. The reason I didn't block Tallicfan20 was that he didn't continue after your warning. Should he continue to break the 3RR report him or let me know and he'll be blocked. However, he doesn't seem to be the only editor having a problem with the picture, so the core issue still needs to be resolved. Pax:Vobiscum (talk) 22:05, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

Oh ok, sounds good. Grsz^talk 22:17, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

The accompanying Jeremiah Wright controversy was subject to full protection for only a few days. After some sock puppets were unmasked and some other discussions, the page was fully unprotected has been sitting without so much as an NPOV tag and going without edits for days on end. Of course, I can't promise that there won't be future disputes but hopefully things will stay sane.

I am concerned by your comments here. Most editors viewing this page see "August 3" and think that it will be that long. I think you may be disillusioning editors and readers, even with Wikipedia as a whole, simply to save what sounds like a few minutes of your time - and that is only if semi-protection is really needed, which in the case of the article I mentioned didn't seem to be the case. (Really, what kind of POV warrior can't take a moment to get an account and hide his IP address?) I also think that if abusive behavior does not continue and does not provide reason to block a user, then it also does not provide reason to block a page.

I haven't been editing the Jeremiah Wright article but surely it has been full-protected for too long already. Wnt (talk) 18:02, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Yes, I agree that things seem to have cooled down enough for us to try unprotection. Semi-protection is definitely needed for the article right now. Pax:Vobiscum (talk) 22:15, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Requesting an Editor Review

Hi, you opposed my last RFA at Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Gary King a few weeks ago. I have decided to open an Editor Review at Wikipedia:Editor review/Gary King so I could receive a new assessment for my recent activity on Wikipedia. I would greatly appreciate it if you could take the time to look over my recent contributions and point out areas where I could improve. Thanks in advance! Gary King (talk) 05:21, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Restoral of AP disambiguation page

Greetings,

Just curious if you would like to discuss. Pls read my comments on the AP discussion page and let me know what you think.

Thanks.Marchije (talk) 15:04, 29 May 2008 (UTC)