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To all who supported my recent Request for Adminship, either by voicing their support or by creating challenging questions, Thank You! I am humbled by the unambiguous consensus and I am confident that you will never have reason to question this decision - but if you do, please let me know. My special thanks (in alpha order) to John Carter and Revolving Bugbear for their trust and confidence and the great weight that their nominations brought to this event.

This user advocates unified discussion, if you comment here, I will reply on your talk page and move the entire discussion to your talk page in the process; I would prefer it if you did the same, moving the thread back here for your reply. That way the discussions will always stay together and the intended recipient will see the message alert when he or she logs on. If you create a broken discussion by replying here while leaving my comments on your talk page, I may leave the discussion as is and continue the broken discussion, or I may reunite the discussion in my reply, depending on what I think makes more sense. Thanks.


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[edit] Request for Assistance

(moved here from User talk:Pbsolomon for unified discussion)

Hi, I noticed that on the "Editor Assistance" page you were willing to help with some advice on deletions/verifiability. I posted a page on Norman_Ralph_Bowen and it has been listed for deletion because some editors feel he is not notable enough. Would you mind looking the article over and giving me your thoughts on notability, etc? I would really appreciate it. Pbsolomon (talk) 22:17, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

I took a look at the article and I have several thoughts. First, it does give a lot of personal information about the subject that is of marginal if any notability. For example, his education and military service are not likely of any interest to Wikipedia users in general, only to family and friends of the subject and extreme specialists. Some background (birth town, birth date, studied at Columbia, degree in Remember this is an encyclopedia. Second, the article certainly asserts importance for the subject in the lead, but the article references his status as a "correspondent for the Wall Street Journal" to a single article rather than a WSJ listing of their correspondents, etc. If anything, I'd think the article should at least reference three or four separate articles. Does the article refer to him as a "correspondent"? If so, maybe a simple parenthetical comment would do. Is the article available online? Not required but certainly helps when defending against deletion. Also, if one article does make a WSJ "correspondent", then it may not equate to notability. If, on the other hand, this is just an example article, I would guess that a regular WSJ correspondent would be notable. Third, you might consider disclosing your relationship, which has been questioned several times, rather than simply saying that you don't have any COI. The question of how you got an unpublished family history and how that is not WP:OR at the very least is a serious question. I don't presume COI, but if I go to the Vanderbilts and ask to see an unpublished personal diary, then reference it on Wikipedia, that's still Original Research and not allowed. If, however, I find a (reliable third party) published analysis of an unpublished personal diary of a notable individual, that I can cite on Wikipedia. Finally, I advise strongly against making "threats" to go to DRV or Mediation if the article is deleted. These are just processes, they aren't weapons. Experienced participants in XFDs don't make their decisions based on future potential actions by the opponents of specific deletions. A better solution would be to ask for help and request the article be undeleted to your userspace so you can work with an experienced editor to excise the overly personal material and add more citations. This of course, only if and when a deletion decision is rendered, but the debate is open for several more days. One more point, if you decide to revert other editors' edits to the article you should at least leave an edit summary and, better yet, discussion on the article's talk page. Let me know if you have more questions or want specific advice. --Doug.(talk • contribs) 12:33, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
Doug, thank you very much for your helpful suggestions. Being a Wikipedia newb, I did make a number of mistakes in how I handled this listing initially. I will certainly try to find additional references from the WSJ and others that indicate notability. When I posted the entry, I had no idea that WP articles had to be about "notable" subjects, and so I have been surprised to see the caustic response of some editors what what I felt was an acceptable (but by no means extraordinary) article about an interesting man. I will also probably remove the material that references the unpublished family history. Again, thanks for taking the time to look my the article over. Pbsolomon (talk) 15:06, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] WikiProject Food and Drink Newsletter June 2008

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[edit] The Military history WikiProject Newsletter : Issue XXVII (May 2008)

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[edit] The Texas Chain Saw Massacre

Hi, I was wondering if you could do some copyediting on The Texas Chain Saw Massacre, because I'm trying to get the article to Featured Article status. Thanks, --EclipseSSD (talk) 17:28, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Rollback

I would like rollback.I promise not not abuse it and to use it for vandalism only.Xp54321 (Hello!,Contribs) 21:51, 7 June 2008 (UTC)