Talk:Patriot Bible University

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[edit] Diploma mill

I don't see a listing of Patriot Bible University as a non-diploma mill on the Colorado site linked on this page [1]. In fact, under the guidelines given, they seem to fit much of the descriptionj ("Can degrees be purchased? Is there a claim of accreditation from a questionable accrediting organization? Is little, if any, attendance required of students? Are few assignments required for students to earn credits? Is a very short period of time required to earn a degree? Are there few requirements for graduation? Alternatively, is the fee so low that it does not appear to be related to the cost of providing legitimate education? Does the operation fail to provide a list of its faculty and their qualifications?") --Fastfission 18:37, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Nevermind, it was in the previous link. I'm re-arranging them a bit. --Fastfission 18:43, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] FTC diploma mill list

Mdis (talk ยท contribs) added in that Patriot isn't on the 2006 FTC diploma mill list. Is this worth noting they aren't on a list? Seems unwiki worthy. Arbusto 01:28, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

Does it really matter if an institution offering diplomas is accredited or not? I attended state-run colleges in California and Nebraska, receiving a total of three separate degrees, and I declare that those official accredited pieces of paper are useless, that I could have learned as much or more via my own efforts. Obbop told yah' this.68.13.191.153 02:06, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
Yes, it does matter. I can set up a home page and sell books then offer degrees, but that does not make it a school. Your personal claims are meaningless. PatriotBible 00:13, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
I have to agree that whether or not an institution is accredited is a noteworthy fact for a university. 66.75.8.138 02:41, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Dr. Lonnie Skinner

Can anyone give specifics on Skinner's educational background. He uses the title Dr., but does not say in what or from where. The whole page webpage neglects to mention where anyone received their degrees from. PatriotBible 00:13, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Unbalanced

Most of the article is critical. If there is a large belief that this institution is a diploma mill, then sources need to be provided to show the number of adherents to this claim, otherwise it is representing a minority, and is unbalanced. Sfacets 12:09, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

I think it is well enough documented. In the current article. Granting a doctorate with the dubious circumstances should simply not happen in any respectable institution (not to mention being accredited by an accreditation mill). This is important information, so the parts of the article discussing this needs to be there for the article to be complete, and so their presence does not make the article unbalanced. If you are concerned that that discussion takes up too a too big percentage of the article then you are welcome to add a section describing their facilities or whatever... Thue | talk 10:34, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] This article is actually incorrect, and most people probably know it...

As much as I dislike Kent Hovind, Patriot University IS authorised under the "Degree Authorisation Act" (Article 2, Title 23, C.R.S)

http://www.state.co.us/cche/authlist.pdf

Yoda921 15:02, 20 June 2007 (UTC)Yoda

How so? C56C 20:54, 22 September 2007 (UTC)