Talk:PATH (Toronto)

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Contents 1 Major facilities connected to PATH 2 Not colour coded 3 Expansions of the PATH 4 Note buildings not actually connected to PATH? 5 Is PATH an acronym?

[edit] Major facilities connected to PATH

This list, formerly titled "Stores, Restaurants and Links", was a bit of a mess. I have cleaned it up, but I think we should try and come up with some guidelines as to what ought to be included in the list. My own suggestions are as follows:

• The list should stick to major buildings and facilities (like Scotia Plaza and the Hockey Hall of Fame). If we include every store and food court restaurant in the PATH (like, say Burger King, and other fast food joints formerly on the list), the list would conceivably grow to include hundreds of businesses (if not more), would be unmanageable, and would not be very helpful to the reader as it would be dominated by links to businesses that one could find anywhere and are not specific to the PATH.

• The list should be limited to facilities that are actually linked to the PATH. For example, the CN Tower should not be included, even though the PATH leads to an outdoor pathway that ultimately leads to the tower. If we start including buildings that are not connected, but are located in the vicinity of, the PATH, again the list becomes unamanageable as arguably it should include just about every building and structure in downtown Toronto.

• Linked items on the list should link to articles on the actual facilities/buildings themselves. For example, a link to the general article on the Sheraton hotel chain doesn't really pertain to the PATH and isn't particularly relevant in this context, but a link to the actual Toronto Sheraton Centre is relevant.

I'm not entirely sure that this list is necessary to the article, but if there is to be a list, then I hope this is a helpful start. --Skeezix1000 15:11, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

To determine whether buildings are connected (whether an indoor connection or outdoor connection), one should reference the official PATH map, which includes the CN Tower, Rogers Centre, and Ryerson School of Buisness, and I have used that as the basis for the PATH system buildings list Epson291 06:18, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

Of course the Ryerson School of Business is connected to the path, as it is a tenant of the Eaton Centre, just like Sears and Canadian Tire, and the centre is connected. As for uses connected by outdoor walkways, the official PATH site speaks of the system as "PATH is downtown Toronto's underground walkway linking 27 kilometres of shopping, services and entertainment." We should not be confusing outdoor walkways, shown on a map to orient visitors and other users to the City's main attractions, with an actual connection to the PATH. Skeezix1000 16:30, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

The SkyDome and the CN Tower are connected and part of the PATH, that is the outdoor PATH, (PATH is just not an underground system), it is not there on the map to "orient visitors," but rather they are a part and a member of the PATH's coordinating agency, and the SkyWalk indeed, was constructed for their connection. As for the Ryerson School of Business it mostly is a separate building, and a significant building at that, since it is not a store. Epson291 02:14, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

You will need to source your allegation that the Rogers Centre and the CN Tower are part of the coordinating agency. The Ryerson School of Business building is part of the Toronto Eaton Centre -- the building itself has no separate name, it has large "Toronto Eaton Centre" signage on the Dundas facade, and the majority of the building is taken up with retail space and the replacement of the mall's Dundas parkade. In any event, whether the school of business is a store or not is irrelevant, as the Toronto Eaton Centre has both retail and office components. Skeezix1000 14:40, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Not colour coded

Contrary to popular belief, the PATH is NOT colour coded, thus the confusion Treleth 04:48, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

According to the PATH site, the system is colour-coded: "The arrow is one of the PATH compass colours: blue (north), red (south), yellow (east) or orange (west). [...] These ceiling-mounted compasses have colour-coded arrows pointing N-S-E-W."--Skeezix1000 13:47, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

Hmmm, stange...I thought it wasn'tTreleth 17:28, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Expansions of the PATH

Information pertaining to future expansions should really be sourced. In the past, PATH connections to newly-constructed buildings have sometimes been notoriously slow in getting built -- the complex negotiations between building owners and the city can take years. Similarly, some proposed PATH connections never get built. Without verifiable sources, proposed expansions are arguably speculative, even if a developer claims that a new building will be PATH-connected in its promotional materials. Skeezix1000 12:43, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Note buildings not actually connected to PATH?

Several buildings and complexes are listed which are not, currently, connected to PATH, though they retain the signage. I am thinking of the CBC Broadcast Centre and Simcoe Place, both of whose connection was severed in recent months as construction proceeds on the Ritz Carlton Hotel. Since we don't list future buildings scheduled to connect (like the Four Seasons Performing Centre), shouldn't we somehow note - or omit - those buildings not actually connected? Canada Jack 20:22, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Point taken. But the PATH links to those two buildings are only temporarily closed due to construction. I think that's a different situation than a building that has never been part of the PATH, and likely does not even have a physical connection. So I would keep them on ths list. My vote would also be to not make any mention of temporary disconnections, as they aren't permanent. This is an encyclopedia, not a guide for tourists or commuters. But others may feel differently. Skeezix1000 20:32, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

But it isn't "temporary" in the sense that a street closing is temporary. It won't be until about late 2010 that the connection will re-open. (I work at CBC and this is the scheduled completion date for the Ritz Carlton we've been given) By which time it is likely the 4 Seasons Performing Centre will be connected, as well as the new complex at the NE corner of Yonge and Dunda. I'd say we might a) separately note those buildings scheduled to be connected to the PATH (as indicated by the latest PATH map which, I suppose, is "official) and b) note with an astertix those buildings once connected currently disconnected from PATH. But hey, I'll not lose any sleep if I'm the only one who thinks this is worth noting and the concensus is to leave it as is. No big deal, thought I'd mention it. We should be picky when it comes to an encyclopedia. Canada Jack 03:03, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

I would not mention proposed connections until they are in place, or there is a press release or other verifiable/reliable announcement that they will be connected by a certain date. The Four Seasons Centre is a perfect example -- the PATH connection is proposed, and would link the PATH to the Osgoode subway station, but there is no money for the connection. It's pure speculation as to when, or if, that connection will ever be built. Wikipedia is not a crystal ball. If we mention future connections, it should be because we are almost certain that they will be built and opened.

As for construction closures, it strikes me that such information is the sort of trivial minutia that we should be avoiding in an encyclopedia. However, that's just my opinion, and I would not be too bothered if you feel differently and want to add a notation mentioning construction closures. I would suggest that any notations be sourced from a reliable source, as per Wikipedia policies and guidelines. Skeezix1000 17:58, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

I see your point with the proposed links - makes more sense to wait for the actual connection to come to fruition. As for the temporarily disconnected, I think I've come around to your thinking. If there is some sort of official source to the closure, it might be worth mentioning, but I now feel it's not really worth the effort to search one out, as this is in the realm of minutia. Canada Jack 18:15, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Is PATH an acronym?

If so, what does it stand for? If not, why the ALL CAPS? Loganberry (Talk) 22:54, 18 May 2007 (UTC)