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[edit] References

I'm sorry, where's the information in this article coming from? Aucaman^Talk 02:06, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

Much of it is Azeri Turk propaganda and lies. Etemad 04:26, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

Provide sources for your edits first. Your claim is ridiculous, what is exactly "Azeri Turk propoganda" in the article?! --K a s h ^{Talk | email} 10:19, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

I have provided link. What is "Azeri Turk propaganda"? You should know better than anyone since you are Azeri Turk (pictures do not lie). Etemad 09:18, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

1- I am not "Azeri Turk". 2- Aziers are not ethnic Turk. 3- See WP:AGF, unless you provide what is propoganda, your POV about everything does not belong to this encyclopedia. Your statement about founder of Pan-Iranist being "ethnic turk" is hilarious perhaps you should reconsider your edits here and discuss them here first. "Iranian.com" is not an academic and reliable source, see WP:V not that it had anything to do with the article in the first place. --K a s h ^{Talk | email} 10:14, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

What you think the name "Afshar" is? Persian?! No, its Turk. I forgot to mention that Razmjoo is also Azeri Turk. The more investigation is done the more is shown that Pan-Iranism movement has been taken over by Azeri Turks who have this agenda of "Turkification". Your friend "Engheta" also sounds like a Turk name. Etemad 19:10, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

I have 99.9% certainty that the above poster is Oslonor (who himself is a Turkish nationalist posing as a Persian and spreading anti-Azari disinformation). He has a history of this behaviour. Weareconcerned 09:02, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

Pashtuns are part of Iranians?? LMAO we have our own culture, language, and religion. Get the hell outta here with you made up crap. Downnnnnnnn with pan iranism!

[edit] Iranian plateau

I would suggest to Pejman47 that he check the definition of plateau. Additionally, claiming Arran and Armenia, both part of the Caucasus, as part of the plateau is just plain silly. The actual article on the Iranian plateau needs a lot of work, so don't rely on that for your education on the matter. Atashparast 22:29, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

The problem with Iranian plateau is just that you don't like it. If you think it has wrong infos Try correcting it first. --Pejman47 23:07, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

The problem with the article is that it is factually incorrect. The other problem is that you and a few others here seem to have a nationalistic point-of-view. Wikipedia is not here to promote Pan-Iranism or any other such ideology. Atashparast 01:48, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

Regardless, when there is a dispute you should discuss your changes first. Especially when you're making such major changes. --Behnam 06:59, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Some other facts

Yes according to a popular theory Croats belive that they stem from ancient Iranian tribes (Sramathians most probably), the same theory says more or less that also Serbs and Bosnians are from this tribe. see this http://www.magma.ca/~rendic/chapter1.htm there dozens of srticles and books about this. A Romanian friend also once told me that there is a theory that the ancient Dacians of Romania were Iranians. I have not read it anywere but it makes sense, because as Ukraine (Scythia) was an Iranian land and they were also found in the Balkans so Romania most probably has been too. Also remember when Darius went to fight with the Scythians (Iranians) he crossed Danube (the border between the contemporary Bulgaria and Romania), while if there were no Scythians (Iranians) in Romania, then he could attack the scythians Via Central Asia or the Caucasus! He also pointed to some artifacts of Dacians which resembled those of Scythians. Anyway. Another people who you should not forget are the Jaszy of Hungary. As the name suggests they are releated to the Ossetians. In fact they are Alans who entered this region (Central Hungary). They have already forgotten their language but are still or (were for a long time) aware of their ethnicity. It is debated whether or not Armenians are Iranians. The Armenian language is very close to the Iranian languages. Things are similar which could not be said that they are taken over from (other) Iranian languages. Most probably Armenian is a separate branch of the Iranian languages (next to the west eg. persian, Kurdish etc... and East eg. Ossetian, Pamir etc...). Addinf to that the Armenian aristocracy and kings have been of parthian origins. So You can consider them as Iranian peoples or not. Most Armenians however do not like to be related to Iranians and a lot I have encountered are very hostile to Iranians. The main reason is the religiosu difference, not knowing that Ossetians (who do not deny their Iranianness)are also Orthodox Christians. Having said this Georgians who are a Kartvelian people have assimilated many ossetians (Alans) in them. Moreover the georgian ancient kings and aristocracy have been of Parthian origins too. So maybe you can only mention this without listing it. Babakexorramdin 12:50, 19 June 2007 (UTC)