User talk:PalestineRemembered/Archives/2008/May

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Archive1, Archive2, Archive3, Oct 2007, Nov 2007, Dec 2007, Feb 2008, Apr 2008, May 2008, Jun 2008, Jul 2008,

Contents 1 Mentor 2 blocked 3 Re: Damaged RfC 4 Re: Need guidance please on questioning 5 New Antisemitism Mediation

[edit] Mentor

Per [1]. Please consult your mentor before reverting other editors.

Taking a break from Wikipedia, does not mean that you are allowed to edit mentor free in the Israeli-Palestinian category.

With respect, Jaakobou^{Chalk Talk} 14:25, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

p.s. your recent use of JewsAgainstZionism.com has not gone unnoticed and the community has already discussed this issue. If you will not self-revert on this, matters could very well escalate. Jaakobou^{Chalk Talk} 15:03, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

Using a second editor to revert for you really put things in new perspective on your intentions. I've decided to report the edit war approach.

• Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Saeb_Erekat_disruption.

Cordially, Jaakobou^{Chalk Talk} 11:49, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] blocked

You have been blocked for a period of 1 week. Please refer to this AN/I thread. -- FayssalF - ^{Wiki me up®} 12:21, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Damaged RfC

That's completely not relevant. Haaretz may choose to review one book or the other, that doesn't even assert the notability of the book itself. Much less of Shlomo Sand or the material that he presents. Interestingly, the review also states that Sand is an expert on 20th Century history, and not on 2000-year-old history. Also, while I don't really know about Haaretz, in Ynet for example, reviews like this are generally user-submitted (this one likely is as well), so it's kind of like citing Wikipedia. But again, even if 100% of the Haaretz article is correct, it still has no shred of an assertion of notability for Sand or the other unnamed professors (I'd honestly like to know who they are - please find another source). -- Ynhockey ^(Talk) 18:29, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Need guidance please on questioning

In my view, there's a distinction between asking about actions (e.g. "Did you send these emails?" or "Did you recruit meatpuppets?") and asking about allegiance (e.g. "Are you now or were you ever a member of group X?"), and it's the latter mode of questioning that I'm particularly concerned about (and which Hypnosadist was engaged in).

Mere membership in some outside group is not, generally speaking, a violation of Wikipedia policy unless one actually does something. I don't think it's a good idea to countenance people demanding answers to such queries. Kirill ^(prof) 01:39, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] New Antisemitism Mediation

I think thats its time we got moving. A couple of the points have been raised before and felt they were the foundations to the dispute:

• Firstly whether the picture can be confirmed to have been taken in the rally in San Fransisco.
• Secondly to come to an agreement on what new antisemitism is and then to decide what the image is depicting and whether it purely illustrates New Antisemitism or whether it also addresses other issues which could be confused with new antisemitism by new readers.
• If we cant confirm the those then we need to find a viable alternative.

A point i would like to raise is that at some point a lead image might need to be found if this article got to FA. The image in question is not free and couldn't be put on the main page with this article as todays FA. Although not an immediate point a long term solution might wish to be found so that this article could feature on the main page with a viable alternative.

Does anyone have access to Lexis Nexis? It might help as a search on the network could uncover something not readily available on the internet. Reliable sources that use the image would be helpful. Do you reckon that there would anyway of finding third party images that might possibly contain the poster/placard? Also i would be grateful if images of other placards at that rally could be found to find whether this was a small minority at this rally or perhaps a larger group.

Whilst that is being done i wanted to find out on what the consensus view is on what New Antisemitism is? I have read the article and the previous discussion and attempted to get a proper understanding but i wanted to ensure that this was current.

PS any sources you find can you please post in the section at the top of the mediation talk page. Seddon69 (talk) 19:52, 13 May 2008 (UTC)