Talk:Ordinary (heraldry)

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[edit] Flag vs. Shield

The U.S. flag is barry, but the shield (borne on an eagle carrying arrows in one talon and olive branches in the other, etc.) is paly. The flag has a canton, not a chief, anyway... AnonMoos 22:55, 25 December 2005 (UTC)

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[edit] Ordinary...

Has the definition of ordinary been discussed before? I think that it's seriously lacking as the lead of the article. Any suggestions for a sharper and more accurate definition?--dave-- 18:34, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

No one knows what the definition of an ordinary is. It's notoriously true that there is nothing true about ordinaries that is not true of at least some other charges. All one can really do is list them, and there is just general, not precise, agreement about even this. --Daniel C. Boyer (talk) 14:21, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] "in orle"

Confusingly, when a number of charges (by default, eight) are arranged in the position that a bordure (not an orle) would be in, they are said to be "in orle".

It could reasonably be argued that charges in the position of a bordure would be issuant from the edge. Otherwise, how do you tell the position of a bordure from that of an orle? —Tamfang (talk) 03:22, 16 May 2008 (UTC)