Talk:Open Handset Alliance

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[edit] Organization of the article: Products section

Can we perhaps begin a bit of a discussion on the Talk page about article organization?

The article is a good start on a new open product alliance, but I believe the product section should be better organized. Android is NOT the only product of the alliance, as several editors have noted. It is clear from the History section that many companies have gotten into the act by signing on with the OHA. In my view, each of these companies will, ostensibly, be introducing products over the next six to twelve months. The question is how to organize the products section. The current "Products" section is organized such that it appears Android may be the only product. Attempts to add additional subsections for non-Android offerings have, to date, generally been deleted by other well-intentioned editors. So my proposal is to kick ideas for potential organization around on the Talk page and see if we can't get a consensus. What do you say?

Proposal A -- My first idea is to subdivide the Products section into some subsections that we could build the article on over time:
  • proposal A1 -- subsections for "Hardware component products" and "Software component products," "Mobile Network-provider products" and "End-user products." End-user products would include both retail handsets (combining chips and basic software) as well as specific end-user software add-ons that are not network specific. Mobile Network-provider products would include specific OHA-compliant offerings of data services (bandwidth, network extent, reliability, aggregate data loads, etc.).
  • proposal A2 -- subsections for "End-user products" and "Component products". End-user section would be handsets and multi-vendor multi-network add-on software while semiconductor chips, 'raw' handsets wholesaled by the manufacturers, etc. Perhaps network services would need to be a separate section as they would not fit in as a complete offering, nor would they be what we normally think of as components. In this typology, a Motorola handset would be a component if offered, as today, only through other companies to be sold for a specific network with specific, but would be an end-user product if offered directly to consumers for consumers to use generically, much as Dell computers are sold today.

Many variations are possible. But Android alone is not it. Android is just one of myriad product offerings that will make the emergent Open Handset Alliance become over time. What are your ideas? N2e 16:52, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

Unfortunately, I don't yet know what these other products are, and therefore can't suggest an appropriate structure. Could someone more knowledgeable please first add information about some of these anticipated products into the article (with cites, of course) under an "Other products" heading, without necessarily creating a coherent structure first, and then we can restructure the information into a coherent framework afterwards? -- The Anome 14:16, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
Quick thought - another possibility is to include one section for embeddable systems (hardware and software) and one section for retail products. Mindmatrix 22:30, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

OHA is expanding but the wiki article shouldn't look like a commercial catalog of OHA applications and hardware.Chmyr (talk) 22:08, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

Agreed, that would be unencyclopedic. But Android is one of many compliant products that will be released in the next year, and clearly the "Product" section should expand somewhat as the new products come out. Thus the discussion on organization here on the Talk page. N2e (talk) 02:29, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Verizon Wireless

Verizon has joined the Open Handset Alliance. Just do a search with Verizon Wireless and Android in the news section of Google and it will bring up stories about it. Since I don't know how to do really good edits to Wikipedia, someone else has to do it. Here is the first search result: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/sfgate/detail?blogid=19&entry_id=22454 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rajbhai87 (talkcontribs) 23:30, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

You should read your sources. They like the idea of Android as a product. They have not joined the OHA. Roguegeek (talk) 23:37, 5 December 2007 (UTC)