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"Despite its status as the United Kingdom's tallest building, there is no public observation floor; the view from the upper windows is the sole preserve of the building's tenants."

I seem to recall that there used to be a viewing gallery which was open to the public, but a couple of men (possibly IRA) visited one day and left a bag there. When challenged, one man produced a hand gun and told the security man that there was a bomb in the bag before making their escape. The viewing gallery was closed and never reopened after that... 87.74.2.97 23:46, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

The above statement about the attempted bombing is false and should be deleted. On 15 November 1992, the IRA drove a van near to the tower which contained a bomb (see Terrorism section in main article). They most certainly did not leave a bag. I will be very impressed if a credible source could be found to backup the above statement. Chikong (talk) 22:54, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

The title is wrong - this should be "One Canada Square" not "1 Canada Square". Darthspin 00:28, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

The building's own web site calls it 1 Canada Square: http://www.1canadasquare.co.uk/home.htm

193.113.57.161 13:21, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

I seem to recall that there is some kind of shed at the top of Emley Moor mast, but that you wouldn't want to spend much time in it. -- The Anome 07:23 24 Jul 2003 (UTC)

Nice article. I used to work on the 50th (top) floor, and we did have something we used to refer to as a 'viewing gallery', but in truth it was only a small area next to one side of the building, between the lifts and the restricted areas. Tremendous views of London on a fine day. jamesgibbon 23:40, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I have actually been out on the roof area around the bottom of the pyramid on top. It's not a publicly accessible area, but a group of us were taken on a tour of certain parts of the building including the roof (and the server room, too). I did take some pictures while I was there, but this was several years ago and I didn't have a digital camera back then. If I can find them, I'll get them scanned in and the community as a whole can decide if any are appropriate for this page.

We had to use a service lift and walk through some sort of plant room to get there, so it's unlikely that the viewing gallery - or the location the existing image was taken from - is the same place.

The view was lovely, though! J-Deeks 14:29, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

Opening paragraph says: "It is currently London's tallest building, and there seems to be no likelihood that a larger one will be approved any time soon." This is no longer true, there are at least 2 taller buildings which have been approved - London Bridge Tower (306m) and Columbus Tower (237m). A third building, the 307m Bishopsgate Tower, was recently proposed, and is awaiting approval. Wjfox2005 22:55 06 Sep 2005

The para above is correct however of these only the Bishopsgate Tower is anywhere close to construction. Darthspin 00:27, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

1 Freight and firemen's lifts
2 Thirteenth floor?
3 Canary Wharf
4 Requested move
5 Canada Tower
- 5.1 Survey
- 5.2 Discussion
6 Flag icons
7 Closed to the public in 1993?
8 Maybe

[edit] Freight and firemen's lifts

The article says:

There are several floors below ground and an equipment floor above the 50th, so no passenger lift in the building vertically traverses the entire height of the structure. However, there are two freight lifts and two firemen's lifts that travel to all floors.

However, the link given as a reference [1] just confirms the lifts exist. Nowhere does it say they can call at the other floors (and indeed it seems unlikely as the machine floors will contain the lift gear etc.) JRawle (Talk) 17:59, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

The maintenance lifts do go right up to the level just below the base of the crown, as I recall - that's how we got out onto the roof there. I cannot remember if it was the same lift we took to get into the server room underground beneath the building. J-Deeks 02:09, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thirteenth floor?

Over in the Thirteenth floor entry, it is stated that "For instance, the thirteenth floor of One Canada Square houses the air conditioning equipment and no rentable offices, though the owners insist that this is merely an architectural coincidence." Anyone here able to source that? Offer first hand accounts here in the talk page?

[edit] Canary Wharf

Should this article be merged with Canary Wharf?

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the debate was PAGE MOVED per the building's website. -GTBacchus^(talk) 21:42, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Requested move

One Canada Square → 1 Canada Square — Website usually calls the building "1 Canada Square", as does one of the maps on the site. However, the other map on the site refers to the building as "One Canada Square", and the man who "works for Canary Wharf Group" uses this name (see here). Other buildings in Wikipedia use a variety of numerals and letters, so there appears to be no precedent. anskas 21:10, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Canada Tower

The building used to be called Canada Tower - can anyone shed any light on this change? I've added a mention to the article. Ben Finn 12:14, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Survey

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[edit] Discussion

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Based on the wording of the move request above, I don't understand what the argument is to move the page. It seems both names are in use - is one clearly more common? -GTBacchus^(talk) 21:38, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Never mind, I get it now. I'm going to go ahead and complete the move. It seems uncontroversial enough. -GTBacchus^(talk) 21:39, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

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[edit] Flag icons

I think we should have the flag icons because it is a trend in other skyscraper articles. Personally, I am not keen on them.

87.112.36.191 (talk) 22:22, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Closed to the public in 1993?

I know it's Original Research, but I'm sure someone could help me find a source on why/when they closed the top floor(s) to the general public. I went up to one of the floors in '93 for a visit and a walkabout, but the following year it wasn't allowed anymore. I'm pretty certain I heard the reason for it being that of the Bishopsgate bombing, but for this to be verifiable I need help on locating at least one source to keep it on the page.Mac dreamstate (talk) 02:20, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

The 50th floor of the tower was opened to the public during 12 September 1992 - 15 November 1992, as bankruptcy administrators for Olympia & York Canary Wharf Limited wanted to maintain interest in Canary Wharf. The scheme was stopped on 15 November 1992 when the IRA attempted to bomb the tower. I've modified the article to include this.

Chikong (talk) 05:07, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Maybe

Guys, maybe is being used in the wrong context here.

"maybe" is indeed a word, and means "perhaps" or "possibly"
"may be" means "could be"

The above two are different in meaning. Transposing the above two into the phrase in question

"One Canada Square may be overtaken as the tallest building..."

yields either:

"One Canada Square possibly overtaken as the tallest building..."

"One Canada Square could be overtaken as the tallest building..."

The second is clearly correct, not the first, so the correct wordage for the article is "may be" not "maybe". The same applies to the other phrase in contention "both of which may be noticed by the riders"

Chillysnow (talk) 12:16, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Just as a further clarification to the above, by using maybe instead of may be, you're joining two separate parts of speech together that should not be joined. You're joining the auxiliary verb "may", meaning "could" to one half of the past tense of the verb "notice" i.e. "be noticed" and changing it into the adverb "maybe". These are two separate constructs and cannot be joined without fundamentally altering the meaning of the text. Chillysnow (talk) 12:25, 28 May 2008 (UTC)