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Contents 1 Capital 2 About churches of Ohrid 3 About churches of Ohrid 4 What is Ohrid really known for ? 5 References 6 Geography of Ohrid?

[edit] Capital

"Ohrid was capital of the Bulgarian empire. Above the city still remain the ruins of the stronghold of Tsar Samuil. As an episcopal city, Ohrid was an important cultural center within the Bulgarian empire during the Middle Ages, which still can be seen in the numerous churches and monastery buildings"

[edit] About churches of Ohrid

First we are talking about Middle Ages which ends at 15 century Now if somebody reads this article, and have never been there he will assume:

1) Ohrid was part of Bulgarian empire after 1018

2) It was a center of a Bulgarian church after 1018

3) The Bulgarians build many churches after 1018

However the fact of the matter is:

1) Ohrid was not part of Bulgarian empire after 1018 with a very brief exception in early 13th century – couple of years.

2) There was no Bulgarian church in Ohrid after 1018

3) There isn’t a single church (at least major) built by Bulgarians

4) There are no churches dating 8-10th century

The oldest church (not counting early-Christian church) is Church of St. Sophia built around 1030. The vast majority of churches are built in the 13 and 14th centuries. Therefore unless proved wrong I will insist on the previous version. I am sorry but Ohrid is not just part of Bulgarian history. Also why was the name origin removed? What’s so controversial about that? --Cigor 18:37, 23 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] About churches of Ohrid

The movie, Before the Rain, was filmed in Ohrid. I dont know if this is worth mentioning...

[edit] What is Ohrid really known for ?

The leading paragraph of this page says "The town is notable for being the location where the Ohrid Agreement was signed."

I am sure this is exactly what Ohrid is *infamous* for. The agreeement is a shame for all Macedonians, and we all know how it was signed. Does this forced agreement deserve to be mentioned in the leading paragraph about Ohrid ? Isn't there anything else more important than that ? Who wrote this page anyway ?

Goce Smilevski, Bitola, Republic of Macedonia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.125.180.95 (talk) 07:17, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

Goce, feel free to move the information to some other part of the page - just don't remove it completely. Just so you know, most editors will undo any controversial edit that comes from an IP adress. You may want to consider getting an account. BalkanFever 07:27, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

Isn't Ohrid considered the Macedonian Jerusalem? The town of the many churches and so on. This should be worth mentioning in the leading section. --Laveol ^T 11:11, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

I added that, but the Ohrid agreement part looks like crap now. I don't know where else it could go. BalkanFever 11:29, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

I'd remove it. It does not seem that important or at least not in a way that could be well represented in this section. --Laveol ^T 12:49, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

OK BalkanFever 03:46, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] References

I just wanted to put a specialized source(s) and not a city guide source.Ancient history is properly referenced with specific type of sources not city guides.Megistias (talk) 18:57, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

A link ref is on the President of the Republic of MAcedonia and that means that the ref is useless.This is on history.Megistias (talk) 18:58, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

The ref are wrong and should be removeddiff.This is what applies.

• Oseriates, "lakes"; akin to Old Church Slavonic ozero (Serb-Croat jezero), Latvian ezers, OPruss assaran, Gk Akéroun "river in the underworld".So nothing to do with that desar....
• Wilkes, J. J. The Illyrians, 1992,ISBN 0631198075,Page 99:"... 99 victory would be theirs if they received Cadmus as king. After this had come about as foretold, Cadmus and Harmonia ruled over them and founded the towns of Bouthoe (Budva) and Lychnidus (Ohrid). ..."

Megistias (talk) 19:06, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

The article is full of city guide links presented as sources.Someone remove them.Megistias (talk) 19:10, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

And they are in Slavic as well.Tourist guides...Megistias (talk) 08:31, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

This fact has already been discussed.Tourist guides are inappropriate.Proper sources will be added.Megistias (talk) 11:42, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

You added a huge number of Travel guides.diff and inappropriate sources.Megistias (talk) 11:47, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Geography of Ohrid?

Seems like the article is concentrated on the History of Ohrid. There's no word of geography, climate, etc. So, as an information, Ohrid has a pleasant Mediteranean-like climate, with average Jan temp. of 3 degrees Celsious, and avge July temp. of 24 degrees Celsious. Rainfall is about 700 mm a m2 per year, and on its coast can be seen a lot of PALMTREES, and other mediteranean flora. Cheers.24.86.127.209 (talk) 05:06, 29 May 2008 (UTC)