Talk:October 31

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October 31: Halloween; Samhain; Reformation Day in Protestantism 1517 – According to traditional accounts, Martin Luther (pictured) nailed his 95 Theses onto the door of a church in Wittenberg, Germany, marking the beginning of the Protestant Reformation. 1863 – The New Zealand land wars resumed as British forces in New Zealand led by General Duncan Cameron began their Invasion of Waikato along the Waikato River. 1922 – Benito Mussolini became Prime Minister of Italy at the age of 39, establishing a coalition government composed of fascists, nationalists, and liberals during his first years in office. 1941 – Gutzon Borglum and 400 workers completed the colossal busts of U.S. Presidents George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Theodore Roosevelt, and Abraham Lincoln at Mount Rushmore. 1984 – Indira Gandhi, India's first and to date only female prime minister, was assassinated by two of her own bodyguards after Operation Blue Star on the holy Sikh temple in Amritsar. Riots soon broke out in New Delhi and several other cities throughout the country. More events: October 30 – October 31 – November 1 Archive – By email – More anniversaries... It is now 06:24, June 15, 2008 (UTC) – Refresh this page

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[edit] Helicopter escape

• 1973 - Mountjoy Prison helicopter escape. Three Provisional Irish Republican Army members escape from Mountjoy Prison, Dublin, Republic of Ireland after a hijacked helicopter landed in the exercise yard.

This event does not seem to me to be a globally notable event. Unless it can be established that this particular event was a major turning point in a war or government action and had lasting worldwide impact, it should be excluded. It would also need to be established that this particular event can be considered notable by a global audience. The amount of news coverage that this event had at the time it occurred is not relevant to the argument. The fact that it has an article on the subject is not sufficient to call this event globally notable. Please see WP:DOY for details on what is considered globally notable. Please don't compare this event to other events that are listed as this event must be evaluated on its own merits (and the newest listings always get first attention). -- Mufka ^{(u) (t) (c)} 14:11, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, don't think so. WP:DOY doesn't have consensus, and is easily the most ridiculous attempt at a guideline I've ever seen. How anyone has the temerity to claim that an event that is notable enough for an article is "non notable" is beyond me. While I fully agree that these articles shouldn't be filled with every news story going, to try and exclude notable events is just plain stupid. One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 14:38, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

According to , I submit that consensus does exist. Long standing practice and widespread acceptance can mean nothing less than consensus. As we all know, consensus can change so I would ask that you make your opinion known on the talk pages for WP:DOY and WP:DAYS. I understand that you have an emotional attachment to the subject, since you wrote the article on it. But refusing to discuss it does not help make an argument that this event should be included. Calling the goals of WP:DAYS stupid is not productive and is insulting to the editors who put many hours of effort into maintaining useful and informative date articles. Without some sort of guideline to limit what is included in the date articles, they would all be over 100k long and would be full of junk. I consider your comment arrogant and personally insulting and I only ask that you engage in productive dialog. -- Mufka ^{(u) (t) (c)} 15:13, 20 March 2008 (UTC)