Talk:Northern Bank robbery

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That loyalist intelligence comment, sums up very well the reasons why the PIRA were generally blamed dispite a lack of overall evidence. I'm readding the comment, as it is not POV it is not only factual (look at the casualty numbers) and the general opinion it conforms to the articles about the loyalist 'groups'. SCVirus 05:10, 14 October 2005 (UTC)

I've added a police source for the assertion that loyalists weren't up to the task; can you find some opinion pieces mocking loyalist bungling? "Many commentators" is one of those dreaded weasel terms. Demiurge 11:21, 14 October 2005 (UTC)

Contents 1 Latest developments 2 Bank note picture 3 British? 4 Introduction 5 Not Bank of England 6 Fair use rationale for Image:NorthernBankNI20.jpg

[edit] Latest developments

Demiurge, thanks for the cleanups - most welcome. I'm trying to ensure the wiki is kept reasonably up to date.

[edit] Bank note picture

That picture does seem rather pointless doesn't it? There must be something better than a picture of the banknote to put here. Funny little guy 05:15, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] British?

There seem to be a few references in the article about the Northern Bank Robber being in Britain ("...biggest bank robbery in British history"). Just to clarify, although Northern Ireland is part of the UK, it is not part of Great Britain, maybe this should be changed? Alex 20:16, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

I couldn't find any references to "Britain" in the article as it now stands. The quote you provide as an example doesn't refer to "Britain" either - it refers to a nationality. So, just to clarify, although Northern Ireland is not part of Great Britain, it is British and therefore the particular sentence you refer to does not need to be changed. --Mal 12:06, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

British Isles (terminology) says "Britain = an informal term for Great Britain (in the political sense) and/or the United Kingdom." -- Finlay McWalter | Talk 20:22, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

The above is patently untrue. Britain can not be used as a term to describe the North of Ireland. It is not an "informal term" rather it is an incorrect term.It is one of many terms regularly used by the unionist community when referring to the six counties and it is as delusional as using ulster or province. No part of Ireland is of britain or is british regardless of the constitutional position. —Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:{{{1}}}|{{{1}}}]] ([[User talk:{{{1}}}|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/{{{1}}}|contribs]])

Please sign your comments. Britain doesn't describe either the "North of Ireland" nor Northern Ireland. The facts tend to speak for themselves: although Northern Ireland is not part of Britain, it is British. "The North of Ireland" is, by the way, one of those "delusional" terms, as is "the six counties". As for using the name Ulster to apply to the place, you should be reminded that its not only unionists or "the unionist community" that gets things technically wrong (see Saor Uladh for an example). While it is technically incorrect to refer to the UK as "Britain", as that basically exludes islands and Northern Ireland, it remains fact that it is used as a short form. --Mal 12:06, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

British is a valid term being used to avoid an unneccesary use of words in what shouldn't be that much of a politically charged article, and one used by multiple media outlets in relation to the robbery - [1] [2] [3] [4]. Note that this isn't a carte blanche for use in any other article, but I really don't see the problem in this one. One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 15:49, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Introduction

I think this introduction is rather short. I've extended it, trying to keep an NPOV and avoiding weasal words. Just the sheer scale of the robbery deserves a note, and a brief mention of the massive political controversy surrounding it. martianlostinspace 21:16, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

And in hindsight, I see that "Lapsed Pacifist" seems to be the culprit who ripped out the previously even longer 2 paragraph introduction. I may/may not revert to this, but Passed Lassafist did not discuss this at any rate. martianlostinspace 21:27, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Not Bank of England

The haul included £10m of uncirculated Northern Bank sterling banknotes While they do have sterling written on them they are NOT sterling as these notes are not acceptable in the rest of the UK. (They are currency notes, accepted currency not legal tender.) 16:21, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

I always assumed that Northern Irish bank notes were acceptable in the rest of the UK, they just arn't as people rarely see them. Phalanxia 19:54, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

They ARE Sterling banknotes, but that does not mean that they are universally accepted throughout the sterling zone. -- Arwel (talk) 20:54, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

Notes printed in Northern Ireland ARE Stirling and ARE acceptable in the rest of the UK Dionysus99 11:31, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

Northern Irish notes are legal tender throughout the UK. Many may not accept them as they don't know them, but they are legally acceptable Sterling tender. Ben W Bell talk 21:26, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

Incorrect. They are 110% not legal tender throughout the UK. One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 21:33, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

Oh no, not the "legal tender" red herring again. "Legal tender" does not mean what most people think it does - read the article for details. Northern Irish notes are not legal tender anywhere, neither are Scottish notes, and Bank of England notes are only legal tender in England and Wales. The acceptability of notes is an issue completely separate from "legal tender". -- Arwel (talk) 01:32, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:NorthernBankNI20.jpg

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— Save_Us † 23:55, 28 January 2008 (UTC)