Talk:North York Moors

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[edit] Expand

Expansion tag added, as this is quite short compared with other National park articles - we can find more to say, I'd have thought SP-KP 18:48, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Geography

I'd like to see this section include something about the underlying geology but don't have specific knowledge in this area - can anyone do this? The higher moors are on sandstone, towards the coast is shale and boulder clay, then we have the limestone escarpments to the South. What else is important? Peat and bog areas might deserve a mention.4wd 22:08, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

What else is important.

I just thought of Ironstone mining in Rosedale, low grade coal from small pits on the moors (e.g. near Blakey) and even gas discoveries such as the recent one at Westerdale. Perhaps Geology should be a separate section in the article! 4wd 22:12, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

I'm currently working on this article and have altered the structure prior to adding more text and images. I'll add back some of the text later.--Harkey Lodger 16:51, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wildlife and Nature in the NYM

Hello, I've started a section referring to Wildlife which could do with more work. Here could be listed a lot of species that a visitor to the area might expect to see and they should mostly be linkable to existing Wiki pages.

Similarly I've begun to expand a little on the natural features (OK, strictly speaking moorland is man-made!) There's scope here to touch on natural features and how they were formed, such as Newtondale, Bridestones, Sutton Bank and Gormire. 4wd 21:28, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] History

This could go back a good deal further with references in particular to the Great Abbeys, whose influence extends to this day in types of farming practised for example. 4wd 20:59, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

I've just written a further chunk for this. Feel free to insert wiki links as I have run out of time just now.... I am more than happy for anyone to add or make minor edits. It's easier to think what might be useful once "something" is up on the page! 4wd 22:53, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

I've started to research this. It should be "up" in the next few days. --Harkey Lodger 16:35, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] North York Moors Link

hello, i added a link to http://www.northyorkmoors-stay.co.uk. However i have recieved a message saying i need to discuss it in here first. I think there should be a link to this website as it is the only dedicated north york moors website except the official one. It is primairly for accommodation but also has tourist infor like golf course, fishing, bird watching too. I feel it would be a useful link for people interested in the north york moors, and as i say north york moors websites are very thin on the ground and it seems like a quality website. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Shimlad (talk • contribs) 17:28, 14 Oct 2006 (UTC)

Hi - you really should have a look at WP:EL and WP:NOT before placing any links. In practice Wiki is an encyclopedia not a directory and certainly not a tourist information guide. Links are rarely needed on Wiki as content is what is required by the readers. It seems very likely that you have information that may be of use to the page but it should be placed as content rather than a link. Hope this clarifies things - all the best --Herby talk thyme 17:38, 14 October 2006 (UTC) (and please sign postings on talk pages - thanks)

[edit] Name

I have mostly seen 'North York Moors' in writing, but a lot of people seem to say 'North Yorkshire Moors'. Which is the more correct, or is neither so ? Thanks--jrleighton 05:36, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

The geographical area and the National Park are both correctly referred to as "North York Moors". The railway, however, seems to be officially the "North Yorkshire Moors Railway". Confusing,but there it is! --King Hildebrand 10:43, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Withdrawal of status.

Can anyone find a source for the "Withdrawal of Status" section? I can't find one online.--Harkey Lodger 16:00, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

Me neither, nor anything relating to a change in the status of the Yorkshire Wolds. It was added here by Arthur7171 (talk · contribs) on 19 February. -- ALoan (Talk) 20:37, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

I emailed the NYM National Park. Their reply was "Having checked with some colleagues at the National Park offices here it would seem that this is not accurate." I shall therefore delete the section.--Harkey Lodger 09:17, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Disambiguation questions

[edit] Sparrow hawk

In the section North_York_Moors#Natural_history, the "limestone belt" sub-section, the term sparrow hawk is included. This link leads to a disambiguation page (sparrowhawk). Could some knowledgeable person edit this link so it leads to a proper article? Thanks. --User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 14:17, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Fixed! Sorry, I'd no idea there were so many. Just shows what Wikipedia can teach me!!!--Harkey Lodger 08:59, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] External Links

I moved this section into a less prominent place to discourage advertising in the tourism section--Harkey Lodger (talk) 11:29, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

However Wikipedia is not a tourist directory and the link is against policy as far as I can see. I think discussion should take place before placement is considered again, thanks --Herby talk thyme 11:37, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
Agreed.This person is adding external links all around the area.Can it be blocked?--Harkey Lodger (talk) 11:42, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
Yes they can be blocked - but considering the number of reversions they have only had 2 warnings at the moment, so a block would normally be declined. Keith D (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 11:57, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
Blocking would be far to heavy handed for now but it would seem they have a "single purpose" so may well need watching/guidance --Herby talk thyme 12:00, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

I attempted to place links in these sections in good faith, the site I listed in the official tourism site for the newly formed Yorkshire Moors and Coast area including the NYMNP as is supposed to serve as a source of further information on the area. Apologies if the guidelines were not adhered to, I would however appreciate some guidance on how to go about making reference to the site and ultimately creating a page as it's own entity. Best regards YMCTP YMCTP (talk) 17:08, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

However Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia not a tourist directory and external links are rarely necessary (see WP:EL). Equally as you obviously have a connection with the board you cannot place the links due to conflict of interest policy. Thanks --Herby talk thyme 08:24, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

If I were to ask a colleague at the National Park Authority to update this wiki would this suffice? YMCTP (talk) 13:03, 31 January 2008 (UTC)