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[edit] Suggestion...

I have a suggestion that I think we should implement to make it clearer what this template is showing, and also may help with people trying to switch the QBs mid week. What if we change the wording on the template from "Current starting quarterbacks" to "Most recent starting quaterbacks"...i think this works because it's (arguably) a little clearer that we're talking about the most recent QB to start a game for his team...also, i think we need to do away with the "as of week xx" thing...the problem here is that it gets switched on Sunday (or in this case on Thursday)...i know it's a technicality, but at that point half of the QBs fall under Crystal Ball because they haven't actually started a game for their team yet that week. I'm proposing that we switch it to "Most recent starting quarterbacks", and change "As of week xx" to "Updated MM/DD/YY"...i'll try it out on the template and if people disagree, it can always be changed back Bjewiki (Talk) 04:00, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

I hate it. I think it sounds very...unofficial, for lack of a better word.►Chris Nelson^Holla! 05:14, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

I agree with you both. The template does need to be tweaked in an attempt to deter WP:CRYSTAL-violating edits, but the proposed change does sound pretty awkward and, as Chrisjnelson put it, "unofficial." How about something like... hmmm... well, we'll have to think about it. Skudrafan1 (talk) 06:10, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

Well, i'm open to other suggestions, but I think something has to change. To be honest, since Thursday the the template is kind of WP:Crystal. I mean right now it says (as of week 12), when in fact only 3 games have been played in week 12, so the rest are all predictions. Bjewiki (Talk) 14:24, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

The most obvious fix-it, to me at least, would be to place a disclaimer on the template saying not to edit the template at all until all the games have been played for a given week. We would be policing that all day Sunday, every Sunday though. Skudrafan1 (talk) 14:59, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

Actually, it would technically be after all of the current week games have started...so, really not until Monday night....but you're right that it would def. get edited during Sunday... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bjewiki (talk • contribs) 15:01, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

Yeah really, by that logic, the Monday night teams are "predictions" if we update it Sunday. But I don't consider that a big deal.►Chris Nelson^Holla! 16:51, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

This proposed new title, solves nothing in my opinion. Why? Because the uninformed editors that make incorrect changes to the template (usually IP editors) don't look at the top of the template anyway. If they did, they'd notice it was "through the previous week." "Through Week 11" and "through November XX" are no different in this regard - they'll just edit the template, maybe changing the date or maybe not. Changing the wording at the top will not a stop an IP editor from added an announced starter to the template, because they aren't looking at that in the first place. Quite simply, I don't think there is a really effective solution to this. I think the original wording was best and is as good as any, and all we have to do is monitor it. I'm willing to do that, and there are at least a few others. It's no big deal.►Chris Nelson^Holla! 18:27, 24 November 2007 (UTC)