Talk:Newmarket, Ontario
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This page says Belinda Stronach graduated high school in 1979, but her article says she was born in 1966 - surely one of the dates is wrong? Adam Bishop 01:18, 1 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Yes, the writer is wrong. I graduated from NHS in 1982, before Linda Stronach. It could not have been earlier than 1984, I don't think. Kelisi 02:39, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)
You guys do not live in Newmarket. Stop changing the population. We've confirmed it's 81,000.
- The people who run the city of Newmarket, and the people who count the country's citizens, both believe otherwise. Show your proof, or accept the proof that has been provided. (Living in Newmarket is not proof.) Mindmatrix 03:59, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
- Yeah, how did you arrive at that figure, anyway? Did you go door-to-door and count 'em all? By the way, who are "we", you and your fellow troublemakers? Go and find another game to play! Kelisi 21:59, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
- The official Town of Newmarket website states a population in 2001 of 77,518 (http://www.newmarket.ca/userfiles/HTML/nts_1_26_1.html); and a population of 79,000 in 2006 (http://www.newmarket.ca/userfiles/HTML/nts_1_481_1.html). Stephanielauren79 (talk) 16:59, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
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- The figure of 79,000 (from the second link) is a population projection for 2006 from 2002, and shouldn't be considered accurate. According to the Canada 2006 Census, the population at May 2006 was 74,295 (already in the article), although this probably under-reports the true value by about 1-3%. The York Region planning department's figure of 77,518 is already included in the article, but is only an estimate. I think the current Population section in the article, which includes these two figures and the 2011 estimate is sufficient. Mindmatrix 19:38, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
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Mayors in Canada do not get the title "honourable" [1]. When being formal, one addresses the Mayor as "His/Her Worship" but I don't think that's appropriate in the encyclopedia. DoubleBlue (Talk) 21:17, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
Doesn't Belinda live in Aurora? And why is Elvis listed as a resident of Newmarket? Doesn't Richmond Hill have (I know they used to) him listed on their "Welcome to Richmond Hill" sign being his home? Both of them being born in Newmarket (at one of the few hospitals in the area) doesn't mean they lived there or are from there.
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[edit] Politics
I can find no source that says that Newmarket has "almost always gone 'Conservative Blue', and is considered to be one of Conservative Party strongholds". In fact, Karen Kraft Sloan, a Liberal, was elected by a wide margin in the previous two elections. Elections Canada Without a verifiable source, I have removed the reference. DoubleBlue (Talk) 21:29, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
[edit] WP:NPOV
User:65.49.152.223: You have made some good additions to this page and I hope you will continue to improve it. Be very careful to maintain a Neutral Point of View, however. Your comments must be able to be backed up by a verifiable and NPOV source. Saying this politican is great or that one is dishonest is not permitted on Wikipedia. Cheers, DoubleBlue (Talk) 05:15, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
Ur correct. Liberals have been elected by a wide majority. the only time I recall a conservative was voted in from newmarket was Belinda Stronach.
[edit] What are People from Newmarket?
Mr. User:Kelisi, IMO, "Newmarketers" is auckward and can be cofused (when spoken) with peope in the marketing industry. Newmarkedians is a term I first used in this article. I am going to revert it back to Newmarkedians since I know people born and raised in Newmarket. Change it if you find (and cite) a better source. Cafe Nervosa | talk 20:10, 5 December 2005 (UTC)
- Any source would be a better source than you. "Auckward"? What does that mean, towards Auckland? Cofused? Peope? Clearly you're not an authority on correct usage.
- "Newmarkedians is a term I first used in this article." A powerful reason to use it, I must say. At least I now know why I'd never come across the term.
- "I am going to revert it back to Newmarkedians since I know people born and raised in Newmarket." Impeccable logic! Hey, I know people born and raised in Paris. Instead of "Parisians", can I call them Paridoxiconians just because I feel like it?
- "Change it if you find (and cite) a better source." I shall change it, and I need look no further than myself for a better source. I grew up in Newmarket (my house was 411 Roywood Crescent, a bungalow with built-in garage and cream-coloured siding; go ahead – go there and have a look), and I, my family, friends and neighbours always called ourselves Newmarketers, which we found not in the least bit awkward to pronounce. Kelisi 03:16, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
- Its now a he said/she said so I will not edit it for now. I still like mine better. Please wait a while before adding your term to Category:People by Canadian city. Later Cafe Nervosa | talk 23:53, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
- It's not my term. Kelisi 04:45, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
- Its now a he said/she said so I will not edit it for now. I still like mine better. Please wait a while before adding your term to Category:People by Canadian city. Later Cafe Nervosa | talk 23:53, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
It's Newmartians.
Among my friends we have always called ourselves Newmarktonians (notice the lack of the 'e'). I dont know if that is even a real word but it works with Torontonians (the ending sounds the same). We thought that Newmarketers just sounded like the three musketeers. Newmartians just sounds stupid -- makes us sound like "new" aliens... however, we said it with a K as in Newmark-tians but it was hard to say and just sounds dumb. And yes I grew up in Newmarket... Just my 2 cents... Jammedshut 04:28, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Elevation?
It would be nice to include an elevation in the Geography section. Does anyone know how far above sea level Newmarket is? Kelisi 18:52, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
Never mind, I found it: 239 m.Kelisi 15:54, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
Newmarket actually ranges in elevation from about 230m to 300m above sea level (I have the contour drawing in front of me). Stephanielauren79 (talk) 16:40, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] CuJo
Curtis Joseph, goalie extraordinaire, shouldn't be listed under 'Famous Residents' of Newmarket if he never lived in the town itself. Going to school in the town (Huron Heights, I presume) doesn't make you a resident. Thoughts??? PKT 18:00, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
- Curtis Joseph DID live in Newmarket though. He bought a house and lived with his family and parents on my street, Binns Avenue, in 1997. They only lived there for months before they moved out though. Maybe they realized that it wasn't such an upper class neighborhood and they kept being bothered by kids like us :P. His parents yelled at us for knocking on their door... but later we caught him while he was playing hockey on the street with his kids and he signed autographs.Bryan5000 03:44, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
- Good enough for me PKT 15:16, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
- Bryan5000 is correct, I remember CuJo living on Binns (and leaving because people continued to bother him).--Gammi93 23:07, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Bogart Pond
Isn't this pond fed through underground springs? Jaydawg 20:02, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
I don't think so (but cannot rule it out completely). Upstream, Bogart Creek collects storm water runnoff from much of the area south of Mulock Dr and east of Leslie St. Stephanielauren79 (talk) 16:46, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] The Patch
Where are the actual borders of "the patch" in Newmarket?
"The Patch" is the neighborhood bounded by George St (west), Cherrywood Dr (north), Hillview Dr (east) and Davis Dr (south). Stephanielauren79 (talk) 16:46, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Sports and recreation
I feel it should be noted that Newmarket only has one golf course within its town limits; as opposed to two, as stated in the Sports and recreation section of the article. While St. Andrews Valley Golf Course does stretch into Newmarket, it is based in Aurora; on St. John's Sideroad. Stephanielauren79 (talk) 14:06, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
- St.Andrews Valley is within Newmarket's boundaries, but its street address is, as you say, in Aurora. PKT (talk) 15:10, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
- More accurately, some of St. Andrews Valley is within Newmarket's boundaries. Stephanielauren79 (talk) 21:18, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Providing Interwiki Links
I was wondering how you guys feel about linking to other Wikipedia articles. I have noticed that many articles on Wikipedia create links on nearly every possible word or phrase. While this may be great for navigating (or looking up something you may not be sure of) this also can create an information overload for some people. On other articles, I have noticed that only the first occurrence of the word / phrase in each section is linked. Personally, I like making as many references to other articles as possible. How do you feel about it? Stephanielauren79 (talk) 12:16, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
- There is actually a guideline about that. PKT (talk) 14:40, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
- Very useful, thank you. Now I feel bad for linking all those years. Stephanielauren79 (talk) 15:14, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
- Don't worry about it - edits made in good faith don't cause any problems. They can be undone relatively easily. In this case, I've reverted your change, but kept a few worthwhile links, and added a few others. Mindmatrix 16:51, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
- Alright. I could use some clarification though as to why a couple of the links were removed; specifically: mill pond which was the only occurance in the article; as well as Aurora which was the 3rd appearance of the name in the article and the 1st in the History section. After reading the guideline above, I was under the impression that links should be created from the first use in each section of an article rather than the first use in the entire article. Thank you. (trying to understand) Stephanielauren79 (talk) 17:25, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
- I removed the mill pond link by accident - sorry about that; I've now restored it. Regarding your other questions, we generally only link to one occurrence unless the article is extremely long. The policy states one link to an article is usually sufficient, but you may (not should) consider a second link in certain circumstances, but it's rarely done. Also, tables or lists can contain links to articles even if they are already linked in the text, though only the first occurrence in a table should be linked (see, for example, the list of high schools in York Region District School Board). Some editors prefer to exclude the extra links from lists, unless they contain the only occurrence of the term.
- By the way, I also removed a link to mill because the target is a disambiguation page; do you know what kind of mill was built? (I suspect it was probably a gristmill, like others in York County.) Mindmatrix 18:04, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
- Alright. I could use some clarification though as to why a couple of the links were removed; specifically: mill pond which was the only occurance in the article; as well as Aurora which was the 3rd appearance of the name in the article and the 1st in the History section. After reading the guideline above, I was under the impression that links should be created from the first use in each section of an article rather than the first use in the entire article. Thank you. (trying to understand) Stephanielauren79 (talk) 17:25, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
- Don't worry about it - edits made in good faith don't cause any problems. They can be undone relatively easily. In this case, I've reverted your change, but kept a few worthwhile links, and added a few others. Mindmatrix 16:51, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
- Very useful, thank you. Now I feel bad for linking all those years. Stephanielauren79 (talk) 15:14, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Education
Would it be useful to note that one of the 15 elementary public schools, Mazo de la Roche, is also a French language elementary school? Stephanielauren79 (talk) 18:19, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
- I don't think there's any harm in stating that there's a French-language immersion school in the town, or the fact that it's named in honour of the author Mazo de la Roche. Mindmatrix 20:21, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
