Talk:Nationalist Republican Alliance

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I think the Nationalist Republican Alliance is much better known internationally by its acronym, ARENA, so I have moved the page accordingly. Davidcannon 21:40, 23 Mar 2004 (UTC)

"ARENA Party of El Salvador" is not the name of the party. If the part after ARENA was supposed to be disambiguation, then a) it's not needed (there's no other "ARENA" article) and b) even if it were, it should be in parentheses like "ARENA (Salvadoran political party)". --Wik 22:04, Mar 23, 2004 (UTC)

I suspect David asked the right question but unfortunately reached the wrong answer. Maybe ARENA would be the best location? Hajor

I just wanna point out that ARENA was not opposing a "military junta," it was opposing a civil-military junta that had toppled the last in a long string of military dictatorships. J. Parker Stone 06:12, 18 July 2005 (UTC)

We should add a disambiguation. There was also an ARENA party in Brazil, during the military dictatorship period. --Andrelvis 23:22, 1 October 2005 (UTC)

the ARENA party was not really opposed to the military gov't. They were working with the gov't but were played out as a right wing opposition group so the murder of civilians could not be blamend on the military and oligarchy, where it really belongs. D'Aubuisson was a scapegoat for the orderd killing of archbishop romero.

The WikiProject Fascism template should be removed. I don't see how "the subject is of interest to the associated WikiProject" any more than any other party. The FMLN has an ideology much closer to fascism than ARENA. The template is obviously a a smear attempt.Lenin13 18:44, 12 September 2006 (UTC) I have an essay due on Fascism in "Latin America" and my girl friend lived in El Salvador for 16 years so I asked her if ARENA was "Neo-Liberal" or "Fascist," and she said Fascist. She was an active member of the FMLN so her point of view may be biased, but it is probably better than many of ours here. Also the FMLN is Leninist not Fascist. You would need to put MOST Leninist parties under "Fascism" if you were to put the FMLN under the title.Taboo Tongue 16:53, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] This entry has been too lenient towards the ARENA-led governments of the civil war-era. I call for a flag on neutrality.

A few minutes ago I included a full paragraph in the text of the entry, imported from the main article on El Salvador. The paragraph reads as follows:

"The military government, dominated by the Alianza Republicana Nacionalista (ARENA, or Nationalist Republican Alliance) party founded by Major Roberto D'Aubuisson and backed by the United States, was responsible for more than 75,000 civilian deaths. Atrocities by revolutionary guerrillas, who received some Soviet aid, were not uncommon, but these casualties numbered far less than the thousands killed by the military."

It's found here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Salvador#History

(in the last, rich paragraph)

As the entry read before this inclusion, it's abundantly obvious that it was written by someone within or very favorable towards ARENA. It gave the impression that the guerillas were perhaps responsible for more civilian deaths than were the government - whereas in reality, the government was responsible for many times more civilian deaths.

If my inclusion is reversed, I call for a flag on neutrality on this article/entry. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.134.72.20 (talk) 12:43, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

I agree with the above, and I am marking the claim that the FMLN was responsible for "killing of thousands of civilians" during the civil war for citation. If it is not cited corrected within a month I will remove it.Taboo Tongue (talk) 08:31, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

—Removed "killing of thousands of civilians" Taboo Tongue (talk) 20:31, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] bias?

"REFRESHING" to have an ally? What the hell? edited..... Lequis (talk) 02:56, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Bias?

"If anything, ARENA has become a near carbon copy of the U.S. GOP." Does this violate NPOV rules? Josh (talk) 12:51, 19 March 2008 (UTC)