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However, the majority view is that the Greek gods are descended from Indo-European religion. Which modern mythographer would this be referring to then? Wetman 05:53, 23 Aug 2004 (UTC)

I have deleted the whole sentence which is speculation and not very relevant to the topic anyway. This article needs more work. Adam 06:00, 23 Aug 2004 (UTC)

And I've deleted 24.23.21.77's edit of "Bronze Age" Greece, which was "Golden Age" for him. The Philistines live on, I fear... (Zimriel 23:00, 28 May 2006 (UTC))

When I added the map, it made the photo layout look funny, and since I'm still a bit of an HTML retard, I can't seem to make it line up well. Any help would be appreciated. Nine999999999s 00:43, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

I have removed the: "Wikimedia Commons has media related to:" box of Mycenean Civilisation as the link was dead, if anyone wants to put it back in and fix up the commons article as well then feel free. 58.167.193.62 11:08, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

The link is to Category:Mycenaean culture. It works from fr:Wiki, but I can't make the connection from here. --Wetman 14:10, 27 May 2007 (UTC). Pay no mind: I did it! --Wetman 14:14, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Historical overview

The "Archaeology" section was almost all a summary of Late Helladic pottery and of its use in chronology. While very good, much of it overlapped the Helladic period article. Also, this article should concern primarily Greece itself. I've moved most of this article's "Archaeology" section over there. This "Archaeology" section can remain as a discussion of the history and methods of excavating in Bronze Age sites of Greece; and studies of trade in LH IIIA, IIIB ware etc. But researches specific to LH chronology should be directed over to Helladic period. Zimriel 06:00, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

How about "historical overview" on the model of the Minoan Crete site? We can have another heading for "archaeology" which is actually about the archaeology... (Zimriel 22:55, 28 May 2006 (UTC))

[edit] re BCE/CE at Mycenaean Greece

I have posted the following notice at User:Milkbreath's talkpage (Wetman 22:06, 20 August 2007 (UTC)):

BC/AD is a convention always used in Wikipedia articles on specifically Christian subjects. In non-Christian subjects, however, changing established BCE/CE usage to BC/AD is a discourtesy, rather like "correcting" spelling to American practice. I'm sure you understand that whatever convention is established in an article, we simply go with it. Will you clean up your changes at your next edit at Mycenaean Greece. Thank you. --Wetman 22:02, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
I see, now that Ive checked ancient page history, that this article began with BC 10:41, 8 April 2004. So it's stuck in that mode. My error: you so rarely see "BC" in professional literature. --Wetman 22:12, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The

"The palace" is like "the dog" in "The dog has great powers of endurance." "The" refers to a class. See this. "Palaces" means that, too, but it doesn't work so well in the sentence "The organization of artisanal labor is especially well known in the case of the palace" because "case" is singular. --Milkbreath 17:03, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Mycynaens in Epirus


A Historical Greek Reader: Mycenaean to the Koine,by Stephen Colvin,ISBN-10: 0199226601,2008,Page 40,"... (innovations) until the post-Mycenaean period.' In the late second millennium the proto- Aeolians seem to have occupied the regions between Epirus and Thessaly, ..."


Prehistory and History by David W. Tandy ,ISBN-10: 1551641887,2001,Page 4,"... 9mbracian V r 0 10 20 30 km I Gulf 32 Figure 1: Map of Epirus showing the locations of known sites with Mycenaean remains. ..."       

Prehistory and History by David W. Tandy ,ISBN-10: 1551641887,2001,Page 6:

"... and the mechanisms by which such interactions took place. The strongest evidence for Mycenaean presence in Epirus is found in the coastal zone of the lower Acheron River, ..."

Prehistory and History by David W. Tandy ,ISBN-10: 1551641887,2001,Page 17:

"... The Mycenaean Presence in Southwestern Epirus Taking into account the discoveries of the Nikopolis Project, remains of Mycenaean provenience or inspiration are known

Prehistory and History by David W. Tandy ,ISBN-10: 1551641887,2001,Page 18:

"... and more gently on the south and west. From this acropolis-like settlement comes the strongest evidence for Mycenaean presence in Epirus. A circuit wall employing Cyclopean masonry, muCh of which can still be traced, ..."


Prehistory and History by David W. Tandy ,ISBN-10: 1551641887,2001,Page 22:

"... a fragmentary condition, it appears that the assemblage conforms in chronological and formal terms to Mycenaean pottery already known from Epirus. The kylix is the most commonly identifiable shape, with fewer sherds belonging to stirrup jars, kraters, cups, and other shapes. ..."

Prehistory and History by David W. Tandy ,ISBN-10: 1551641887,2001,Page 23:

"... at Mazaraki in the interior of northern Epirus, of Aegean pottery and bronze objects as burial goods in Gist graves (Wardle 1977, 177, fig. 10 nos. 476, 477; ...


Prehistory and History by David W. Tandy ,ISBN-10: 1551641887,2001, Page 24:

"... There is no reason to imagine that these constructions in Epirus would have been among the first, although construction dates in the first half of LH IIIB are not unlikely. ..."

Prehistory and History by David W. Tandy ,ISBN-10: 1551641887,2001,Page 27:

"... GLYKYS LIMIN /23 of domesticated cattle are found in excavated contexts in Epirus from late Neolithic times (Douzough and Zachos 1994, 17); Ephyra and the adjacent Nekyomanteion site have produced them alongside those ..."

Prehistory and History by David W. Tandy ,ISBN-10: 1551641887,2001,Page 30:

"... or luxury items of Mycenaean type-imported pottery and bronze weapons and utilitarian objects-were deposited primarily in graves and hoards throughout Epirus, ...

Prehistory and History by David W. Tandy ,ISBN-10: 1551641887,2001,Page 34:

"... desires of those who possessed them to constrain or mobilize social action. In the case of Mycenaean engagement in coastal Epirus, ..."

 Prehistory and History by David W. Tandy ,ISBN-10: 1551641887,2001,Table of Contents:

"... A Mycenaean Port of Trade in Southern Epirus?

Megistias (talk) 13:55, 23 February 2008 (UTC)