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  • according to Wikipedia´s own rules about naming monarchs, this needs to be changed [1]

Antares911 11:30, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC), requesting move from Mongkut to Rama IV of Thailand.

Please see the result of the discussion at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style (Thailand-related articles)#Article names for Thai royals/Thai with honorary titles first. andy 11:49, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I hereby decided to deny that request to move. Arrigo 12:37, 26 August 2005 (UTC)

Thank you for reading my imcomplete English. I do not think Anna's letting Chulalongkorn read "Uncle Tom's Cabin" is an inspiration to liberate slaves. However he knew that his country must be modernised to equalise "unequall" relationship with western countries and thought slaves must be liberated to it. In short, it was a MUST for Chulalongkorn. It is not a Hollywood movie nor Anna's book. Above all, Anna's book is said inconfident because the book has bunds of wrongs or fakes. So please think about the article again.

King Mongkut reigned as Phra Chomklao Chaoyuhua not Phra Mongkut Klao Chaoyuhua. Phra Mongkut Klao Chaoyuhua is a royal name of King Rama VI (Vajiravudh).

Fixed. Apparently a user misunderstood the disambiguation message at the top and incorporated it into the article. Perhaps a template should be used, but I'm not sure which will confer the same message? --Paul C 02:59, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Date of Death

Thai sources suggest the correct date of death is October 1 not October 18. Some english sources such as [2] say that he died on his 64th birthday, yes, it's [almost] true but based on the Thai lunar calendar. For reference in english (not mentioning thai lunar calendar), take a look at [3]. This correction also clarify why Chulalongkorn succeeded his father on October 1, 1868 --NaiPiak 07:52, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Biographies?

Are there any modern, accurate (ie not Anna Leonowens biased) English language biographies written about Mongkut? 68.116.143.113 20:15, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

LC Control No 73180908:

Mongkut, King of Siam, 1804-1868. Uniform Title: Selections. English. 1948 The King of Siam speaks, by Seni Pramoj and Kukrit Pramoj. [Bangkok, 1948] 247 l. 35 cm. Most Thai were shocked by the portrayal of their revered nineteenth-century king, Mongkut, in the musical The King and I. The stage and screen versions were based on Margaret Landon's 1944 book entitled Anna and the King of Siam. To correct the record, well-known Thai intellectuals Seni Kukrit Pramoj wrote this account in 1948. The Pramoj brothers sent their manuscript to the American politician and diplomat Abbot Low Moffat 1901-1996), who drew on it for his biography entitled Mongkut the King of Siam (1961). Moffat donated the Pramoj manuscript to the Library in 1961. (Southeast Asian Collection, Asian Division, Library of Congress)


Also from Library of Congress; LC Control No.:

  • 61016666:

Moffat, Abbot Low, 1901-1996 Mongkut, the King of Siam. Ithaca, N.Y., Cornell University Press [1961] 254 p. illus. 23 cm. Moffat considers Mongkut to be one of the great men of Siam, and seeks to recover him from the well-loved fictions. Includes a number of black-and-white illustrations. He is skeptical of the reliability of Anna Leonowns accounts and analyzes some of them.

  • 61001018:

Griswold, Alexander B. King Mongkut of Siam. New York, Asia Society [c1961] 60 p. illus. 22 cm.

  • 71290376: Manich Jumsai, M.L., 1908- , King Mongkut and Sir John Bowring (from Sir John Bowring’s personal files, kept at the Royal Thai Embassy in London).

Bangkok, Chalermnit, 1970. 240 p. illus., ports. 27 cm.

  • 73941070: Blofeld, John Eaton Calthorpe, 1913-

King Maha Mongkut of Siam [by] John Blofeld. Singapore, Asia Pacific Press [1972] x, 97 p. port. 23 cm.

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The first paragraph of the chapter “On the Government of the Thai” reads: “The government of Siam is despotic in the full significance of the term. The King is feared and respected almost like a God. Nobody dares look him in the face. When the courtiers attend audiences they remain prostrated on their knees and elbows. When His Majesty passes somewhere, everybody throws himself to the ground and those who would not do this surely risk to have their eyes punctured by the archers who precede and who launch quite skillfully earthen balls with the bow they always hold ready flexed.”

All praise due to Google. Pawyilee 09:57, 14 August 2007 (UTC)