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[edit] MALGAL

The modern Korean pronunciation of the Chinese characters 靺鞨 is, indeed, Malgal; however, the final "l" sound is derived from a glottally stopped entering tone in older and Southern Chinese dialects which was stopped with a "t" [ㄷ] sound. The t-glottal stops changed to "l's" [ㄹ]in Middle Korean. So while Korean is usually a better reflection of the sounds represented for non-Chinese words in old documents than Mandarin dialect Chinese, we need to keep the above sound change in mind. The t-stops are preserved, moreover, in Japanese--reflected as an additional syllable, "-matsu" (マツ) [靺鞨=マツカツ」. So, the more accurate Korean reading for these characters would be Matkat rather than Malgal. Doc Rock

You dont know Korean language.--Hairwizard91 08:00, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

First of all, I was discussing the pronounciation of an old Chinese term, and only ancillarily discussing Korean; however, for the record, I studied Korean for a year at the US Army Language School in Monterey in 1961. I later earned a BA from Indiana University with a major in Korean Studies and a minor in Japanese in 1966. I received a Masters degree in Korean Studies from Princeton University in 1969 with minors in Chinese and Japanese. I later earned a PhD in Korean literature in 1981, also from Princeton (Dissertation: The Sijo Poetry of Pak Nogye). I was a Fulbright Fellow in Korea 1967-1968 and during that time I studied Middle Korean with Professor Kim Minsu [김민수 金敏洙][1](高麗大), Old Korean with Professor Yang Chudong 梁柱東 (東国大), and Classical Chinese (in Korean) with [Im Ch'angsun 任昌淳][2]. I've taught Korean language, literature, and history at Indiana University and Japanese language and literature at Colby College. I have worked most of my life as a Korean teacher and translator. These are my Korean language bona fides. Now would the Hairwizard91 wish to discuss specifics about my earlier comment or just throw unsupported insults? --Doc Rock 02:10, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Mohe borders and lands?

I've made a series of maps that cover history from 1300 BC to 1200 AD, including several maps that show "Mohe Tribes". But I don't have any more information than that! I'd love to include borders for the Mohe and any official Kingdoms they ruled. Anyone have any info? Thomas Lessman (talk) 08:26, 23 December 2007 (UTC)