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This article is perfect the way it is- 'the delta' in this case is not a geographic phenomenon but a cultural one. It is a term frequantly used in Mississippi to describe this very specific region and its culture (for instance, "Delta Blues" originated in this region). Maybe the title of the article should be "Mississippi Delta (Culture)" or something like that. Its funny, because I happen to live in Southern Louisiana (which is technically the "delgeographical sense) yet it is not referred to as such. Only in Northwest Mississippi. You were completely right in considering the phrase "The Delta" as a cultural one, because as a person who was born and raised there, I can attest to the cultural phenomena that has occurred in this small area that should always be comfortably called "The Mississippi Delta". Whether it is literally the delta of the river or not, the title carries connotations, whether good or bad, that give this special area an identity.

Is this right? Part of my family lives in Southern Illinois and I would never consider parts of Illinois, Kentucky, Missouri, and Tennessee as "the Delta". Just further south. Rmhermen 18:52, Dec 13, 2003 (UTC)

I have no idea, I was curious and found the definitions on the linked National Parks Service site (http://www.cr.nps.gov/delta/volume2/natural.htm). ( 18:57, 13 Dec 2003 (UTC)
That page can no longer be found. This seems like a confusing and unwarranted extension of this clearly defined term delta. Anyone want to work on this before Hurrican Ivan floods it? Wetman 21:20, 14 Sep 2004 (UTC)
Yeah, it's confusing. I'd call this "Mississippi River Valley" or "Mississippi River basin", but delta is more particularly the lower parts near Louisiana and Mississippi, I would think. --Delirium 06:29, Jan 13, 2005 (UTC)
In Mississippi, "The Delta" refers to areas along the Mississippi River noted for very flat land with extremely fertile soil in Mississippi, Louisiana, Arkansas, and Tennessee, while the "Mississippi River Valley" refers to states along the entire course of the river. Jimwilliams57 06:35, Jan 15, 2005 (UTC)

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[edit] Mississippi Embayment

Vote to Merge this section to the other page. I created the Mississippi Delta (disambiguation) according to the different definitions I've seen (though I'm not a resident of the area). This page is one that definitely uses the term Mississippi Delta to refer to the area extending all the way up to Illinois, so it's fine to link to a Mississippi River Valley page from this one, but it should definitely be distinct from what's refered to by the Delta in Delta Blues. Furthermore, I vote for renaming Mississippi embayment to Mississippi River Valley, if for no other reason than I can't figure out what embayment means or why it applies to the Illinois section of the river (and even if it is technically correct, River Valley is more immediately meaningful to the random reader). --Interiot 05:29, 6 September 2005 (UTC)

The Mississippi River valley refers to the entire area from Minnesota to the Gulf that is drained more or less directly by the Mississippi. I don't think it's accurate (show me if I'm wrong) that "Mississippi river valley" is ever used to refer to just that part up to Cairo – that's the embayment region only. The Mississippi embayment is a specific and significant named physiographic feature that deserves its own article. I don't know about the "cultural" Mississippi Delta reaching to Memphis; I'll take the word of the author of that article that it's so. The Mississippi River Delta article was definitely needed to focus on the delta itself. I've modified teh disambiguation page to say "embayment", not "valley".
Speaking of which, shouldn't Mississippi Delta be the disambiguation page, with the current content moved to Mississippi Delta (cultural)? -- Kbh3rd 17:00, 6 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Cotton farming

It would be nice to include some information about the history of The Delta. At the least, it seems like everyone agrees that the Mississippi/Yazoo Delta was the heart of Cotton farming in the south at one point, due to the extremely fertile land in the flood plain. This in turn had other trickle-down effects on its history (slavery, poverty, but I'm not knowledgable enough to write a good paragraph or two on this).

[edit] Robert Johnson

The Robert Johnson paragraph seems a bit of a non-sequitor here... no? --RobHutten 20:47, 6 November 2005 (UTC)

If he's really really notable in the region (eg. vicksburg was historically very important on the Mississippi River, so it's briefly mentioned in that article), then maybe it fits. I'm not a local though, so I don't know whether he's of such importance that the brief blurb should be kept. --Interiot 14:13, 7 November 2005 (UTC)
According to an article on the web site of the Mississippi Historical Society (http://mshistory.k12.ms.us/features/feature43/), Robert Johnson was "the most potent legend in the blues." This statement indicates to me that he does deserve mention in this article, although it would be good to mention a few other notable Blues singers (such as Muddy Waters) as well. --Jimwilliams57 01:08, 8 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Copyvios

The recent text added seems to be a copyvio of several pages, including http://www.blueshighway.org/. The text from http://www.cr.nps.gov/delta/volume2/history.htm might be able to be kept. Some of the other text (and links) may be salvagable. Unfortunately I have pressing issues and can't process this right now, but it's clear enough that some amount of the text is a copyvio. --Interiot 00:27, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

I've restored some of the links and text that did not seem to be a copyright violation. Text was also copied from http://www.pbs.org/theblues/roadtrip/deltahist.html (as noted in the article) and http://www.thingstodo.com/states/MS/delta.htm. I've kept the text from the National Park Service, per {{PD-USGov}}. I removed the list of museums, because the descriptions were certainly copyvios, but I kept the other lists because I don't think short lists (without dscriptive text) are copyvios.
The text that was removed had quite a few internal links in them, so optimally someone can rewrite the text so as to make it not a copyvio, or otherwise find ways to reincorporate the valuable links. --Interiot 13:50, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ole Miss

Ummm, correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Ole Miss in Oxford? I know that Oxford is not in the Delta. Is there a branch somewhere in the Delta? Jimwilliams57 04:31, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

There's a branch in Southaven, which is just off The Delta. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.227.2.128 (talk) 05:52, 20 October 2007 (UTC)