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Reviewed version: May 13, 2007

Confusion here - consecration is an action. Did the pope (and get a name - it's easy. Then link it to the biography) confirm an election, an imperial nomination, or what? None of those three can be called 'consecrate', by the way.

A Teutonic Knight named Christian was consecrated by the pope as first bishop of Lithuania. The archbishop Albert of Riga undertook the consecration.

I'm not sure the first bishop is entirely relevant here anyway, but I'll leave it for now if the question is straightened out.

revised:

The Baltic tribes had held on to their own religion for a long time and continued to do so for a longer period.

I'm quite sure they had been non-Christians longer than they remained non-Christians after this date, since they had never yet been Christians.

spaces before punctuation:

grand duke of Lithuania in 1316 , did restoration
kings of Poland , their titles
should be:
grand duke of Lithuania in 1316, did restoration
kings of Poland, their titles
-- User:MichaelTinkler 14:19 Dec 7, 2001

[edit] Crowning date

I have changed it to 1253-07-06, as this date is officialy celebrated in Lithuania as Crowning of Mindaugas (national holiday, etc) and is thought to be the most probable date of crowning.

Exact date is not known, but it could aslo be smth like 1253-07-13.

that date of crowning (07-06) now isn't thought to be the most probable, as it, in contrast with 1253-06-29, has not matched any Church Holiday in 1253; it was supposed by only Edvardas Gudavicius, whereas other historians suggest another dates. Gugutis

[edit] GA Review

I'm going to have to fail this, particularly on account of the prose. Please don't interpret this as an attack (I'm just trying to suggest how to fix the prose problem) but the article reads like it was written by a non-native english speaker. A lot of the prose is awkward as a result. Tagging the page with [[Category:Wikipedia articles needing copy edit]], or ask Wikipedia:WikiProject League of Copyeditors for assistance might be helpful, but if you want to try it yourself, some particular problems (this is not an exhaustive list) are: Mindaugas (approximate English transcription [ˈmın.dəʊ.gʌs], simplified Lithuanian transcription [mindaŭgas]; also known as Ruthenian: Миндовгъ (Mindowh), Belarusian: Міндо́ўг (Mindoŭh), Polish: Mindowe, Mendog)

Just say IPA if you're going to use the IPA, and also, when you say, "Also known as ..." Do you mean also known as such-and-such in such-and-such-language? It's kinda awkward as it is.

The first conclusive evidence that the Balts were uniting... Concerning the first paragraph, I, a layperson, who has absolutely no knowledge about anything Lithuanian, don't understand at all what's it's talking about. Why are the balts not united to begin with? Who are these dukes and where did they come from? July 6th is now celebrated as "Statehood Day" (Lithuanian: Valstybės diena); it is an official holiday in modern Lithuania.

I can see how this relates, however the prose doesn't smoothly work it in. Say somthing like, this day, July 6th, is commemorated in the modern lithuanian holiday, "Statehood Day."

Beyond this, this article simply doesn't have a lot of context. A layperson doesn't understand what effect this guy has on the flow of history.

One last comment. Why exactly is it that Image:Mindaugo aktas su antspaudu.jpg is tagged as Public domain because the author died 70 years ago? It's a color photograph, so it can't be that old, and the copyright on the photo is still intact, even if the copyright on the object isn't. Thanatosimii 21:10, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Mindaugas I

Why is he not referred to as Minguinas I? There have been two rulers of Lithuania by this name, so it follows that this should be the case. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.107.198.132 (talk) 08:16, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Simply not accepted in historiography. Renata (talk) 10:47, 5 June 2008 (UTC)