Talk:Mil Mi-8

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Folks, where the discussion has disappeared in??? --jno 11:13, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Talk:Mil Mi-17 --Denniss 01:54, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

Contents 1 APU ect. 2 Mi-17? 3 Most Massed produced Helocopter? 4 Mi-172? 5 Hip-E 6 WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Tag & Assess 2008

[edit] APU ect.

The bit about the improved APU seems to have been copied out of context from the Mi-17 article. In that article it is clearly a detail about a particular batch of Czech aircraft with a Czech APU. It does not apply to other Mi-17 or Mi-8MT, and could be retrofitted to older Mi-8 types. Removed. Meggar 03:44, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Mi-17?

Why is there no information on the Mi-17 varients?

Probably because no one has added sourced info, most likely just an oversight or procrastinated task.

Given that the Mi-17 is oftten covered as a separate type in aviation books and websites, it might be better to create a separate page for the Mi-17. I've have done this myself a few times on other articles, especially when there was little coverage in the main article. The key factor will be if there is enough information to fill out a good article without overlapping too much on this one. I often create a sandbox page, and then see if I can fill it up. If I can't makee it something more than a stub, then I just add the info to the main page. If it looks like it can stand on its own, then I ask for some help from other editors who I have either worked with before, or or have worked ont he main page, and try to get the new page ready, then move it to the main space. The alternative is just to create it on the mainspace directly, but then you run the risk of having it AfDed or prosoed for merge before it's ready.

I've got a lot of wiki projects on my table right now, but I'd be willing to help you (or another interested editor) out with this if you want to take a stab at it, whichever way you want to go. - BillCJ 20:23, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

It was a fair seperate article to start with. There was no concensus to merge with Mi-8 but a user not present on the talk page did it anyway. So, to make it simple I will restore it and any new info here can be moved back. The last round of talk wandered off topic. I am sure that we are more interested in facts:

The Mi-17 differs from Mi-8 in having different engines, different transmition, new titanium roterhead, all new rotating components all around, and a new fuselage; resulting in a new aircraft with a superficially similar appearance, althought there are many clear spotting points. Meggar 05:02, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

OK, I didn't think to chck the redirect page. From the talk page there, there was no clear consensus. I'll work on bringing up to current WP:AIR standards in the next day or so. - BillCJ 06:02, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Hard to believe what a mess this article was in. The Mi-17 material was dumped in in Oct '06, and it looks like no work was done at all to integrate the Mi-17 material at all since then. Amazing. - BillCJ 06:38, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Most Massed produced Helocopter?

Shouldn't this be mentioned somewhere? Unless I missed it, I didnt see it... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sargonite (talk • contribs) 23:09, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

Actually most mass produced aircraft was Bell UH-1 (16000) - page 6 and Mil's website acknowledges it here. --Tigga en (talk) 17:53, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Mi-172?

I keep on hearing about this bird; the best Wikipedia result is this page. Is the 172 a completely different helo? Something else entirely? What? Sandy of the CSARs (talk) 02:11, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

As far as my research can tell, the M1-172 (also called Mi-8MTV) is a Kazan-built export variant of the Mi-8AMT. The Mi-8M/MT series are equivalnt to the improved Mil Mi-17, and ought to be covered on that page. However, neither the -8 or -17 pages are very comprehensive. Hope that helps a little. - BillCJ (talk) 04:09, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hip-E

hehe, the irony of one of the most heavily armed soviet helicopters. On a more wikipedia/serious matter, Id truthfuly would like to know a little more about it! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.71.249.209 (talk) 19:08, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Tag & Assess 2008

Article reassessed and graded as start class. --dashiellx (talk) 18:14, 21 May 2008 (UTC)