Talk:Mid-air collision
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[edit] Contested move request
The following request to move a page has been added to Wikipedia:Requested moves as an uncontroversial move, but this has been contested by one or more people. Any discussion on the issue should continue here. If a full request is not lodged within five days of this request being contested, the request will be removed from WP:RM. —Dekimasuよ! 05:22, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
- Mid-air collision → Midair collision Merely a spelling convention; the word is spelled "midair" but often misspelled as "mid-air." See: [1] and [2]. FWIW Bzuk 18:31, 3 December 2007 (UTC).
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- Comment. Very commonly spelled mid-air. See NTSB [3] [4] My dictionary (Random House) states that both spellings are correct. The more common of the two spellings appears to be mid-air, see List of notable accidents and incidents on commercial aircraft, which uses midair 4 times and mid-air 17 times. 199.125.109.89 00:54, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
- The article in question refers to the wikilink and only uses "midair" as the spelling in the text. A vast preponderance of dictionaries and encyclopedias (although Cambridge does prefer the "mid-air" spelling) including Merriam Webster, Webster's, Oxford use the "midair" spelling. The FAA (Federal Aviation Authority) and National Transport Safety Board uses "midair." FWIW, a google search on "midair collisions" brings up 551,000 hits but when you do "mid-air collision," a large number of the hits have the spelling changed to "midair," and the See NTSB example above: [5] actually uses "midair." Bzuk 16:39, 4 December 2007 (UTC).
- I only gave one example of each spelling from the NTSB reports. There are many others of each spelling. They are not year related, but they may be related by who writes the report, some may consistently spell it one way, some the other way. The article also says that a mid-air collision is called a MAC, and if the spelling was always midair collision, that would be MC, not MAC. The article only used midair only because you changed it to midair which was quickly reverted. Google seems to ignore the dash in it's search. Yahoo on the other hand makes the distinction, although a search for "midair collision" prompts, Did you mean mid air collision? There are 465,000 hits for mid-air collision, and 178,000 for midair collision, so I think we can close this request. 199.125.109.52 19:01, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
- BTW, User:Prosfilaes who reverted the change in the article referred to above, noted that there is no definitive usage but changed the edit back to the original spelling for consistency with the title of the article. The reason for the requested move is that I first tried to institute a move and this requires an administrator. I believe that the use of "midair" is the more commonly used and the Google search gives midair as the most common usage. The same spelling is also used by U.S. Navy, the USAF, the U.S. Patent Office, the U.S. Air National Guard, The Canadian Transportation Safety Board, Transport Canada, the Associated Press, AVweb News service, Pravda, the Guardian (UK), CNN, BBC, Swiss Air Traffic Control, U.S. Government Documents Office, Australian government publications and on and on... Where "mid-air" is used is in nonofficial documents and some newspapers. I have not abiding interest one way or the other but I think the case was made as an official usage overwhelmingly uses one spelling variation. FWIW Bzuk (talk) 05:06, 5 December 2007 (UTC).
- I think the case has been made that neither spelling is dominant; as 199 pointed out, Google search ignores the hyphen and counts things in the URL. Hyphen deletion in English is a common spelling change and fairly uncontroversial; note that the NTSB has not enforced one spelling over the other. I opposing moving this, as it's a complete waste of time to do so.--Prosfilaes (talk) 16:09, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
- BTW, User:Prosfilaes who reverted the change in the article referred to above, noted that there is no definitive usage but changed the edit back to the original spelling for consistency with the title of the article. The reason for the requested move is that I first tried to institute a move and this requires an administrator. I believe that the use of "midair" is the more commonly used and the Google search gives midair as the most common usage. The same spelling is also used by U.S. Navy, the USAF, the U.S. Patent Office, the U.S. Air National Guard, The Canadian Transportation Safety Board, Transport Canada, the Associated Press, AVweb News service, Pravda, the Guardian (UK), CNN, BBC, Swiss Air Traffic Control, U.S. Government Documents Office, Australian government publications and on and on... Where "mid-air" is used is in nonofficial documents and some newspapers. I have not abiding interest one way or the other but I think the case was made as an official usage overwhelmingly uses one spelling variation. FWIW Bzuk (talk) 05:06, 5 December 2007 (UTC).
- I only gave one example of each spelling from the NTSB reports. There are many others of each spelling. They are not year related, but they may be related by who writes the report, some may consistently spell it one way, some the other way. The article also says that a mid-air collision is called a MAC, and if the spelling was always midair collision, that would be MC, not MAC. The article only used midair only because you changed it to midair which was quickly reverted. Google seems to ignore the dash in it's search. Yahoo on the other hand makes the distinction, although a search for "midair collision" prompts, Did you mean mid air collision? There are 465,000 hits for mid-air collision, and 178,000 for midair collision, so I think we can close this request. 199.125.109.52 19:01, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
- The article in question refers to the wikilink and only uses "midair" as the spelling in the text. A vast preponderance of dictionaries and encyclopedias (although Cambridge does prefer the "mid-air" spelling) including Merriam Webster, Webster's, Oxford use the "midair" spelling. The FAA (Federal Aviation Authority) and National Transport Safety Board uses "midair." FWIW, a google search on "midair collisions" brings up 551,000 hits but when you do "mid-air collision," a large number of the hits have the spelling changed to "midair," and the See NTSB example above: [5] actually uses "midair." Bzuk 16:39, 4 December 2007 (UTC).
- Comment. Very commonly spelled mid-air. See NTSB [3] [4] My dictionary (Random House) states that both spellings are correct. The more common of the two spellings appears to be mid-air, see List of notable accidents and incidents on commercial aircraft, which uses midair 4 times and mid-air 17 times. 199.125.109.89 00:54, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
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