User talk:Michael A. White

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Welcome to the 'pedia! I was born in Newton MA, by the way! Represent...

[edit] A welcome from Sputnik

Hi, Michael A. White, Welcome to Wikipedia!

- СПУТНИК^{CCC P} 13:12, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Speedily Delete for UsedEverywhere

Hi there, I was wondering why you wanted to delete the page I created? You said that it isn't notable? Why is Craigslist notable? Why is Kijiji notable? The partnership is the first of its kind. It could raise a lot of money for the Nature Conservancy of Canada and spur additional similar partnerships. What should I add to make it more notable? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Canucks1000 (talk • contribs) 19:26, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Thanks for removing vandalism from my user page! -- Scientizzle 23:01, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Revert a warning

Just wondering why you reverted you warning on User talk:200.60.212.116 --mboverload@ 22:01, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

I realized that your warning was for the same vandalism.Michael A. White 00:14, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your VandalProof Application

Dear Michael A. White,

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[edit] edit count page

You're using IE correct? - Glen Stollery 13:53, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

Yep, the old link (tool) is not updated so the new link (tool2) works fine (but not in IE which is why I asked...). FYI you've got 155 mainspace edits which unfortunately is still a wee bit too low for VP (250 min). However I will approve you at 200 which you'll reach in the shake of a lambs - thanks for your reply :) - Glen Stollery 14:06, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Welcome to VandalProof!

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[edit] Islamofascism and Bush Quotes

Greetings, I'm curious to know if you missed the following line at the head of the article?

This article is about the term "Islamofascism"; for a discussion of the relationship between fascism and Islam, see Neofascism and religion.

In the text you've just added Bush did not use the term "islamofascism". Would you kindly remove your citation? Thanks. (→Netscott) 20:12, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. (→Netscott) 20:16, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] VandalSniper

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[edit] It does sound like a bad joke

I was listening to NPR and they had a guy from Slate talking about false confessions, which led me to false memories. We can joke about it, but people spent hard time in jail over the ridiculous theory. It would be a good name for a bad band.

[edit] User:Michael A. White/Schoolwork

Using Wikipedia to host your schoolwork is a violation of WP:NOT--Wikipedia is not a free webhost. Please reconsider this page, or it may be listed on WP:MFD. Thanks! -- Merope 13:56, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

Ah, sorry about that, I should have thought of that. I removed it. --Michael White^T·C 23:38, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] School Assessment

Welcome. Thanks for the school assessment. If you would like to do more then please have a go (assessing other peoples work is a good way to learn). If you post the results as you did on the assessment page then someone may off you advice. Lots of advice available but maybe "be bold" is the first bit. Do ask if you are unsure Victuallers 10:34, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

But I can't stop it... C'mon haven't you ever vandalised?!?!

[edit] Nomination for Adminship

Mike, I have nominated you for adminship do to your "tough on crime" no-nonsense attitudes towards vandalism on wikipedia. I strongly encourage you to accept the nomination here.Hoponpop69 03:35, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hyūga Hinata

Wait...I never did anything. I should create an account, should I? 71.37.21.54 22:32, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WP:CVU status

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[edit] Mike Bloomberg

I welcome the disclosure that you are from UniteForMike. I was wondering that myself last night when I saw that a Michael White who lives in Massachusetts was listed on the About page of UniteForMike. I checked for possible bias by looking at your Bloomberg edits and did not see cause for concern. That said, I want you to take a look at an issue on the Bloomberg page. I removed references to Bloomberg being a fiscal conservative. On the talk page I sourced this to the Club for Growth and also the New York Times. The editor ILikeBloomberg reinserted these references. In response, I inserted fact tags on all the references since none of it is sourced. My position is that Bloomberg claims to be a fiscal conservative, but in reality this is not true. I would like if you could look at the evidence for claims that Bloomberg is a fiscal conservative and decide for yourself. ILikeBloomberg is a biased editor and will not consider this on the evidence. Ultimately, I would like claims of being a fiscal conservative qualified by evidence and criticism, or removed altogether.Jmegill (talk) 16:11, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

Well, thanks for taking a look at it. I still think his fiscal performance is more liberal than you do, but I am satisfied that you do not endorse calling him a fiscal conservative. Jmegill (talk) 20:58, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

Good Edit. I am impressed with the quote you dug up. Jmegill (talk) 03:16, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Bloomberg sources

I could be wrong, but the ancestry site looks like a personal website, which are usually not supposed to be used (see WP:Reliable sources). But either way, it lists three of his grandparents as having been born in Russia and the other in the US, so it doesn't support the statement I removed anyway. Encyclopædia Britannica states that Bloomberg's father was a Polish immigrant, but evidently he wasn't and the Wikipedia article states so, so I don't know what Britannica is referencing then? Your statement "when census records list a Jew from Russia, it is almost always actually Poland" may or may not be true, but what does it have to do with Michael Bloomberg? If I suppose it's possible that Bloomberg has Polish Jewish ancestors, but a reliable reference that states exactly that should be used to back it up (see Wikipedia:No original research). Anyway, the article as it is right now looks fine to me. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 21:31, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] Genealogy

I have removed yoru addition about the commonality of royal descent. Unless, and until, you can fully substantiate that, please don't re-add that. It's common to see such genealogies as products of poor scholarship and lazy research, and such lineages get hyped because of a supposed royal connection, but that is all a result of a magnified problem, not an actual circumstance. ThuranX (talk) 16:46, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

It may be a goal, but 'statistical' averagings aren't the same as actual lineages. Second, note that you'd likely have to be a proven relative, per your sources, of a monarch before 1600, and since records for most people don't start till after that era, it becomes impossible to prove. Do some lineages exist? yes. note also that your article makes note of all the pretenders. Those are legion. I can't count the number of shoddily researched trees that tie back to a few royals, then right back to even more spurious things as the bible. I've seen way too many trees go back to adam and eve. Every such tree, when you ask those who actually understand genealogy as a 'science', and not a religious imperative, dismiss such trees out of hand as the work of fabulists. As to motivation to find such connections, that's welcome in the article with citation, but such an overarching statement's inherently hard to support. This article does need cleanup, so I welcome any efforts you make, but we need to make it better, not just bigger. ThuranX (talk) 01:03, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

Searching for notable kin is certainly worth noting, but I really tire of the hypothetical, and mythical 'royal ancestor' noise. 10,000 Americans with a royal ancestor, by those colonial numbers you gave, are hardly any majority of anything. Any immigrant from Germany, France, Spain, Italy, Scandinavia, Belgium and so on, all the northern and western european countries which aren't England, don't have that demonstrable heritage in most cases. They may have some Nobility in their ancestry, but royalty comes far less often, so you'd again be talking about a very narrow view of things, one that we're trying to avoid on many articles, esp. that one, which already has had globalize tags numerous times. I am aware that there are numerous articles about finding your connection to royalty, but many of them aren't good as far as scholarship goes; one in one of the biggest newsstand genealogy magazines, abotu 3 years back, actually advocated fudging spellings and birthdates to approximate dates to find matches, when it's clear that by fudging data, you'd be shoehorning it in. And if you look at any of the major websites, like ancestry, rootsweb, or familysearch, where you can browse trees, the overlap of such 'royalty trees' with 'biblical ancestry trees' is tremendous, and royal trees outside of the biblical are few and far between, and never seem to list all those 'distant relations'. If I had to, I'm sure I could find a number of good research articles from the various scholarship oriented societies refuting the popular view, esp. as relates to the wider American population. I simply think that perpetuating a bad idea that has a wide following based on ego, not fact, is a bad idea. ThuranX (talk) 01:50, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Son of Genealogy

I'm in agreement with you on a lot of the nominations; there are a lot of articles about Princess Bertha of Bosnia and other "royalty", and needless to say, the Presidents of the United States are our version of royalty. Where I stand on it is that the parent (mother or father, or stepmother or stepdad) of an American president is inherently notable, simply because they shaped the values of a person who later became, not just a president, but "the President". As to a great-great-grandfather, the test might be "would this person have been considered notable if Wikipedia had existed in the 19th century"? James Bush might (everyone seems to have 15 minutes of fame on Wikipedia); on the other hand, Obadiah doesn't seem to have been any different than any other grizzled old prospector.

I see that someone got pissed off that you wrote that royal ancestry was common, but I think you're right. I don't know, it's like every other president is a descendant of King Edward III. There was one guy in England, whose name I read once and have never been able to find since, who was rather ordinary, but apparently a common ancestor of a 25 U.S. Presidents; that's one of the few occasions where I can say that a person would be notable because of his descendants.

Anyway, I think it's good that you ask the question about "did this person do anything notable in his or her own lifetime". There's no reason that genealogy freaks can't list all the ancestors in one article, rather than having each great-grandmother get her own separate page. Mandsford (talk) 23:01, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Randall O

Why are you trying to remove my sister and me from this site. She joined last night. What a welcome from you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.19.114.161 (talk) 08:43, 29 February 2008 (UTC) Maybe if you payed more attention at school you would learn some thing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Randall O (talk • contribs) 10:23, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Merging

Hi. With regards to your AfD nomination at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Francis Lightfoot Lee II, I wanted to let you know for future reference that AfD is not really the step to take when you wish to merge an article, although merge is not uncommonly an outcome at AfD. The procedure for proposing merges (and following through with them) is set out at Help:Merge. Generally, if you propose a merge by that procedure and it is not contested, you can be bold and implement it within a few days. I have closed the AfD with a recorded decision to merge, but I note that the proper destination article is unsure. Please use Talk:Sully (Fairfax County, Virginia) to settle the issue of which article should receive this material. When the matter is determined, you can go ahead and merge it. If you have any concerns about the steps for doing this (they sound far more complicated than they are, but the first time I did one I was nervous about it!) you can let me know at my talk page or get help at the help desk. Thanks for keeping an eye on article quality. :) --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 17:18, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

Hi. :) It doesn't get deleted afterwards. The contents of the page are replaced with #REDIRECT [[destination article]] {{R from merge}}. This makes sure it hangs around for GFDL reasons. I'd be happy to do the actual merge once a destination is determined, but I don't know which article would be best for it. :) If you could participate at Talk:Sully (Fairfax County, Virginia) to help determine that, that would be great. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 12:21, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for weighing in on that. :) I've completed the merge. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 13:01, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Oh, I don't mind doing it at all. I usually merge articles when I close AfDs that way. I just didn't know where to put it. :) --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 15:23, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Theodore Roosevelt Coat of Arms.gif listed for deletion

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[edit] Theodore Roosevelt image

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[edit] Riffat Hassan

For creating a well-referenced and well-written start-class article on Riffat Hassan, I award you the Gender Studies Barnstar. Phyesalis (talk)

Excellent work. Sorry it took me so long to get back to you. Thank you for expanding Wikipedia's coverage of feminist theology while combating systemic bias. --Phyesalis (talk) 19:48, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks!

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[edit] Thanks

I trying to do that. can you also help me with another. Fan196 (talk) 17:06, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

I wanted to move Fan196/Nicole Wray's second studio album too. Thank you, your help is very much appreciated! Fan196 (talk) 17:12, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Alan Augustson

A proposed deletion template has been added to the article Alan Augustson, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated, but this article may not satisfy Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and the deletion notice should explain why (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and Wikipedia's deletion policy). You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{dated prod}} notice, but please explain why you disagree with the proposed deletion in your edit summary or on its talk page. Also, please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Even though removing the deletion notice will prevent deletion through the proposed deletion process, the article may still be deleted if it matches any of the speedy deletion criteria or it can be sent to Articles for Deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached. If you agree with the deletion of the article, and you are the only person who has made substantial edits to the page, please add {{db-author}} to the top of Alan Augustson. --Michael White^T·C 23:02, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Bunth - Thanks

Thank you for informing me about the neologisms. I was shoot down with inaccurate reasons before your post. That was the reason I continued to repost that article. I will re-post this article after I find a way to make it a common word in the English dictionary, until then, I will refrain from posting anything relating to it. Thanks again. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Animepinoy (talk • contribs) 19:26, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] why hello

Why hello good sir. How art thou? I hope you are well like me, Mr. Bean because that sounds grandioso. Well ill be going now. Good talking to you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.232.237.131 (talk) 22:34, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Political families

First, thank you for your compliments. About the hierarchy lists and complete list of political offices held, these patterns were already started when I began my work on the page. I just figured I would follow what the previous posters did for the most part. And, yes I have considered splitting it into state-by-state lists, I might do it eventually, or if you'd like to do it, feel free to. packerfansam 20 March 2008

[edit] Re: Nicholas Roosevelt

I think I may have an obit or something related to Nicholas Roosevelt. Should I just try sending those to you through your blog? Krsalis (talk) 12:33, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] New Orleans

Regarding your map request, you didn't mention it in your request, but would you like Natchez marked on there as well? Kmusser (talk) 17:22, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

I have a draft done at Image:Neworleans steamboat route.png, let me know if you need any changes.Kmusser (talk) 19:15, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Diedrich Willers, Jr.

See my correction, thank you for pointing out my mistake, I misread this part in his obit.... Kraxler (talk) 14:51, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Hello Michael, listing birth and death places with the dates does not "clutter up the lead", it provides the most basic info for the person. Most encyclopedias in many different languages list these so. I know that the basic rule of Wikipedia favors your point of view, but this is one rule I choose to disregard, I have stated my opinion on the Wiki-guidelines page once... Kraxler (talk) 18:18, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

No need to apologize, I'm not offended. But, in my opinion (and I think I have read something similar in the wiki-guidelines), one should not edit an article just to move something from one place to another. Edit if you have something to add, and on such an occasion clean up something you think needs to be cleaned up. Otherwise you will waste a lot of time. What we need is more articles, even if they are slightly diverging from what the manual of style prescribes. Kraxler (talk) 16:46, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] User:Michael A. White/Genealogical information in articles

My pleasure (to read as well). Sardanaphalus (talk) 02:39, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

That's a well written guideline essay, and I have followed this line in a general way in my New York politician bios. I have included even more distant relationships if the relative has an own article in Wikipedia (bluelinked). As to the re-adding of the subcription-required link, it had occurred to me as an afterthought (after deleting) that the mention of the actual source should be there, only the internet link is rather useless in that case. We'll let it stand as it is, maybe somebody registers or subscribes to read the newspaper item.... Kraxler (talk) 15:55, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] Redlink on AfD log

There is no AfD for this. Darrenhusted (talk) 12:46, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

My apologies. Darrenhusted (talk) 12:49, 13 June 2008 (UTC)