Talk:Mazda RX-8

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The image on this page shows a modified RX-8 with a non-standard body kit. Would it not be better to have an image of a standard production model? I could supply a picture of a standard UK car if required. Rob

Rob,
I had meant to change out this image before, but haven't had the chance (will do so in a moment, though). If you have some good RX-8 (or other) photographs, I'd like to encourage you to get an account and upload them to the Wikimedia commons. Anything uploaded at the Commons is immediately available at all Wikimedia projects (such as the English and other-language Wikipedias) and saves us a lot of work. There is an RX-8 page at the commons. Because the Wikies are free projects, we encourage you to upload photographs that are released under a free license, such as the Gnu Free Documentation License (GFDL).
Thanks, and happy editing! --Milkmandan 19:40, 2005 Apr 21 (UTC)

I have now registered and will upload a photo/photos when I have the chance. Thanks. Umop ap!sdn 20:29, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

"it is almost a surety that the RX-8 is still overrated by at least 35 hp (26 kW)" As stated earlier, wheel dyno's came up to 180hp. With a drive train loss of 30hp, this would make the actual power 210hp. 238 hp minus 210 would make 28 and not "at least" 35hp.

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[edit] Over Rated HP

It has been shown on the RX8, as well as certain Porches that while being dynoed, owing to the fact that the front wheels remain stationary as the rear ones spin that sensors on the car perceive that the car is doing a 'burnout' or something of similar effect that could possibly harm the drivetrain. Consequently set sensors put the car into a safe mode that eventually causes decreased power output to the rear wheels and a lessened measured HP output.

The fact that many people believe that car to be over rated HP wise is somewhat incorrect as 1/4mi. and 0-60 times support a horsepower rating given from the factory and not the one that most people speculate to be under rated.

This is an interesting supposition, and not one I've heard before. Can you substantiate it with sources? --SFoskett 18:56, Jun 8, 2005 (UTC)

It should also be noted that the Japanese/Australian version having higher output due to "avaliablity of higher octane fuel" comment is entirely wrong. They use a different octane rating system than is used in the US, but their fuel grades are roughly equivilant (look up RON, MON, and AKI octane metrics). The US version of the RX-8 was "crippled" due to EPA requirements. In the higher HP configuration, the RX-8 put out a lot more heat and MazdaUSA could not guarentee that the cats would survive the required 150,000 miles (by EPA regulations). Therefore, a engine fuel mapping flash was done that had the effect of reducing HP. -- Patrick Williams, Sept 18, 2005.


Isn't the RX-8 not classifed as a sports car and actually something like a sub-compact? Tostie14 22:22, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

I thought the RX-8 has a chassis designation SE3P and classified as a GT car?

[edit] Flip Rating?

I remember seeing an article where *at the time* the RX-8 was the only car to recive a 5 out of 5 on the governments new Flip Rating scale... with Pickups being at the bottom of the scale... I donno if the fact is true now, but I know it is was the first car to recive the 5 out of 5 and may possibly still be the only one. Should be added somewhere...--Azslande 05:21, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] HP and Buy Back

Why was the info about Mazda's buyback removed? This is a significant piece of information about this vehicle.

Also, the horsepower listed in this article is overrated and should be corrected to what Mazda is now reporting. At the very least, both figures should be shown.


[edit] 285 PS in Gran Turismo 4

In Sony PS2's GT4, the RX-8 Type S (Japan-spec) is advertised as 250 PS when you are shopping for a new car, but after you buy it, the power figure becomes 284 or 285 PS... any thoughts on this? Gran Turismo shows the real power (rather than advertised) of some Japanese cars, for example, the Nissan Skyline GT-R (R34) is advertised to have an understated 280 PS but in actuality it has 332 PS. --24.125.38.214 23:46, 21 September 2006 (UTC)


the 280 hp rx-8 is a concept model with that power output. Did you notice the word concept? or are you to busy finding problem where there isnt.

[edit] Other video games featuring the rx8

"Need for speed underground 2" and "Need for speed: Most Wanted" have the mazda rx8 as a drivable car, the games should be added to the apperances in popular video games list

I'm not sure if nfs underground 1 had it as drivable.

http://www.nfsunlimited.net/mostwanted/carlist/ http://www.nfsunlimited.net/underground2/carlist/

After double-checking car list FAQs and my own laboured save file, I'm sure that there's no RX-8 race car in GT3. I removed that and tidied up the section a little (I hope). 88.105.79.123 14:00, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

IMHO adding video game and pop culture appearances is completely meaningless, as these days most car games will feature a myriad of current and previous sports cars. The addition of this info thus does not add to the readers experience of the article and is simply a case of WP:TRIVIA, which should be avoided. I will remove this section entirely, please discuss here if you feel it should be re-instated. Zunaid 08:42, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, I should have seen that one coming. No objections here 88.105.67.26 21:27, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

FYI nealy every other car article on wikipedia has videogame appearance information. unless you hold a VOTE then randomly dleting info from one article and not teh rest proves your negative POV n the rx-7. Personally you are just vandalising the site and videogame appearances are an interesting addition to the wiki project. i have now replaced the article

Which exactly proves the point. Nearly every car these days appears in a myriad of video games, rendering such information of very little importance in relation to the rest of the article and to Wikipedia as a whole. FYI I've removed info from Nissan 350Z as well, I have no POV on any of these cars specifically. Please do not accuse other editors of vandalism, especially when they show that they are acting in accordance with a guideline (WP:TRIVIA in this case), and especially when other editors express agreement with the actions taken. I still feel the section should be removed per WP:TRIVIA, please provide a good argument for why you feel it should be kept. And please sign your posts by typing four tildes like so ~~~~. Zunaid©Please rate me at Editor Review! 12:40, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Fuel Economy

The listed EPA estimates for this car are similar to cars such as the S2000, 350Z, and Subaru Impreza WRX (and STI). Unless there is evidence provided that this fuel economy is overstated, I will remove the passage describing the car's fuel consumption as "similar to a small block V8" and mention that it consumes fuel, just like any car, and that it's fuel consumption is easily comparable to many sports cars.71.235.66.254 21:12, 22 October 2006 (UTC)


[edit] weight in kg not lbs

considering the rx-8 is sold in OTHER markets NOT just the usa. the usa-centric figures do not coform to the iso standards considering this is a worldwide site the weight figures should be in KG NOT lbs

It is a "world car" as you say. However, articles should strive to be as complete as possible, thus the best solution would be to include both metric and imperial units. This goes for all figures, not just weight specifically. Since the wider world market more generally uses metric, these figures should be stated first, with imperial in brackets. Zunaid©Please rate me at Editor Review! 12:40, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] PZ

I edited the PZ section slightly, its available in two colours and the price was wrong. 81.179.153.196 04:41, 9 December 2006 (UTC)Kipper

[edit] design

Removed reference to fiberglass panels. From the factory, the Rx-8 has no such thing. Steel body, save for the aft doors and hood (bonnet).

A whole article could probably be written about how mazda shaves weight, but I don't have the reference material as pertains to the rx-8. Suffice to say, Mazda will trim weight everywhere. Even the length of ignition cables play a factor.

Tigerplish 23:49, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

The "Shinka" info says there are badges on the B-pillars. Earlier the car is described as not having B-pillars. Could someone who has actually seen this variant describe it more accurately, please?

75.30.225.121 (talk) 18:43, 20 January 2008 (UTC)mmbutler

[edit] Redline it every drive?

I'm hearing from quite a few people that a driver should redline the RX-8 every drive to "clear out the carbon deposits" or something like that, and that specifically NOT doing so will result in engine failure sooner than not redlining it every drive. Pff... in second gear it doesn't redline until about 108kph... so when is someone specifically supposed to do this anyways? Anyone who can provide some credible information would be appreciated. If this is true, then it should probably be mentioned on the page. --Puellanivis 04:00, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

I believe the owner's manual recommends to redline the engine once a day to keep excess carbon from depositing yes. --Dinnercoat (talk) 05:20, 17 January 2008 (UTC)


you could put the car in neutral. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.56.224.188 (talk) 18:36, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Top gear episode?

What was the episode number of the referenced top gear?Thomashauk (talk) 05:39, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

Series 3, Episode 5. Description here List_of_Top_Gear_episodes#Series_Three_.282003.29 --Dinnercoat (talk) 05:30, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
It was actually Series 9, Episode 2. Details here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_Gear_(series_9). 28/2/08 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.5.10.153 (talk) 12:14, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
It was actually both. The first one was a proper review, and the second one was a competition against the Audi TT and Alfa Romeo Brera. (Ultimately, the more powerful rear-drive RX-8 was beaten on the track by the much-more expensive front-drive TT because of the TT's iron-filing suspension wizardry.) Chaparral2J (talk) 23:15, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] 2nd Generation RS ?

I have added a citation needed tag to the information regarding the 2nd generation RX-8. The only meaningful mechanical changes mentioned so far from the official Mazda press release [1] are a lowering of final-drive ratio from 4.444 to 4.777. Aside from this there is no mention of any kind of drastic weight reduction, nor an increase in power. --Dinnercoat (talk) 05:49, 17 January 2008 (UTC)