Talk:Max Euwe

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[edit] Teacher

Max Euw was a teacher in Amsterdam and not in Rotterdam

(This talk seems to be obsolete; it's old, and the article now says that he taught in both places.)

Should indicate in which year/ tournament Euwe and Fischer got (+1-1=1).

Euwe scored highly in several tournaments that are not mentioned in the entry, e.g. Groningen 1946 (with Botvinnik). Asoane 12:38, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

Someone should add a game or two. Krakatoa 01:47, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

When did Euwe ever beat Fischer? Rocksong 07:58, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

I added the game to the article, it deserves it. --Ioannes Pragensis 11:20, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
OK, but I think Euwe's lifetime record against Fischer doesn't deserve to be in the article. They played 3 times, twice when Fischer was 14, way before Fischer's peak. It's a bit like saying one of Botvinnik's greatest achievements was a lifetime 50% against Fischer. (p.s. I have no objection to including the game, however).
Yes, but it was way after Euwe's peak, too - You are true that this is not much important but perhaps still interesting for somebody. --Ioannes Pragensis 12:27, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] New game

Can someone add the game between Geller and Euwe in 1953?

[edit] Chess Archives?

Euwe was intimately involved in a long-standing chess openings publication called (I believe) Chess Archives. It was a serial distribution of loose-leaf pages intended to be inserted in one or more special binders, adding to or replacing other pages, to keep the reader up-to-date on opening theory. This was prior ECO or even the Informant, i.e., 40 and more years ago. It must have been the basis for his several books on chess openings. Does anyone have any solid info on this? --Wfaxon 13:51, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Citations needed - possible FA?

This article is balanced and well-written. I think it would make FA grade if it had citations for all the significant points covered. Philcha (talk) 13:02, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

Perhaps you can recruit help from WikiProject Chess. There are currently only two featured articles for Chess, Chess itself and The Turk. This article seems a bit thin for a featured article, though. For example, the sentence that starts "He also wrote many books on chess" is not very informative, and a separate section "Works" or "Publications" may be in order. I'm not a chess player myself, and my interest in the article is marginal.  --Lambiam 17:39, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] FIDE presidency

I've just done a big edit on this. I think this topic may be more significant than Euwe's playing career - he was FIDE president for much longer than he was world champion, and the stakes were much higher. I'll keep a look-out for any other relevant sources. Philcha (talk) 15:05, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Philcha just removed a "fact" tag on the claim that "The Central Committee of Communist Party of the Soviet Union then started plotting to depose Euwe as president of FIDE," claiming that "the ref above (Sosonko) quotes the relevant Soviet internal memo)." The "Sosonko" link goes to the entry on Sosonko, which contains no such cite. Neither, as far as I can see, do any of the other links in this section. The solution is simple: if there is such a memo, link to it here. Otherwise this is anecdotal. Eddore (talk) 06:19, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
You clicked the wrong link in the citation. Philcha (talk) 09:56, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
Then put the cite where it belongs, next to the unsupported claim. I won't argue about whether it's really relevant, just that you need to source it where the reader can find it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Eddore (talk • contribs) 23:51, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
The one citation covers all the points listed, to avoid a disfiguring case of blue chickenpox. Your comment "I won't argue about whether it's really relevant" makes me wonder whether you checked that ref at all. Philcha (talk) 00:49, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Personal Recollection

In 1974 or 1975, when I was a youngster, Dr Euwe was at the Paul Masson Tournament. I walked by him, said 'hi' and he stopped and I shook his hand, saying "I never met a world champion before," at which the great man chuckled.

I see the games he played against the greats of the early 20th and late 19th centuries, also saw him mentioned as an up-and-coming young player in Reti's 1922 book New Ideas in Chess and am amazed at having met this legend.--Jrm2007 (talk) 22:23, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] 1940-45

Was Euwe in the Netherlands during the German occupation, and if so, how did it affect him? Dynzmoar (talk) 10:23, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Yes, IIRC he managed to talk his way out of playing in Nazi-organised events - see Alexander Alekhine for info and citations. Philcha (talk) 10:52, 3 June 2008 (UTC)