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Contents 1 Captain 2 10 August 1512 3 Length 4 Guns 5 Improvement ideas 6 Moved from elsewhere 7 Possible info box 8 WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Tag & Assess 2008

[edit] Captain

There's no link for the captain, George Carew - is Op. Deo. working on this?--shtove 01:32, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 10 August 1512

The comment about the battle on 10 August 1512 is wrong. No french ships were captured, and the english fleet should be 25, at least 25 warships anyway. After the battle the English scoured the nearby coastline and captured a few dozen ships, raided ashore etc. i think they later came back and repeated the process, but this wasn't during the battle, and the ships captured were likely small merchant vessels. SpookyMulder 12:59, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Length

Now that this is a pretty long and thorough article, shouldn't the request for expansion be removed? Hyperman 42 18:38, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Guns

Can someone more knowledgeable on the subject please clarify how a ship can have 91 guns and 30 gunners? TDIPete 09:09, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Interesting question - I thought at first the answer was going to be that the numbers of crew came from before the refit that increased her guns, but the 30 gunners comes from the Mary Rose official website and is apparently the figure recorded in 1545. Presumably the answer is that each gunner was in charge of more than one gun team. Viv Hamilton 09:52, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

I think it's more likely that the answer is that both sides of the ship didn't have to be manned at the same time. The Mary Rose was built in a time of broadside gunnery and sailing vessels that were extremely slow in maneuvering. Unless she was actually surrounded, there would be no point in manning all 91 guns at the same time. Also, guns of the time had a very slow rate of fire and needed to cool off between shots so they wouldn't blow up on its gun crew. For comparison, the maximum rate of fire of the 24-pounders of Vasa was a mere 10 shots/hour.

Peter ^Isotalo 08:03, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Improvement ideas

The article on the Vasa recently made Featured Article status, so editors looking to improve this article may want to look to it for ideas. Johntex\^talk 00:10, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Moved from elsewhere

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The Mary Rose was one of the many ships used in battle during the time of Henry and it was his favourite ship. The Mary Rose was named after Henry's younger sister. It took a year for her to be completed. She was built in Portsmouth, England. She was one of the earliest purposely-built warships to serve in the English Navy. She was sunk in the Solent. It was thought that she was sunk during the war against the French fleet on July 19, 1545. It is also possible that Henry was flattering his mistress, Mary Boleyn, sister of Anne, when he selected the name of the Mary Rose. Mary Boleyn was a member of the court before the arrival of her sister Anne. She had become Henry's mistress while he was still married to Queen Catherine. Mary Boleyn gave birth to three children, the first two children were often attributed to Henry at the time although they bore the name Carey, the surname of Mary's first husband. However, it is strongly unlikely that they were Henry's progeny, or even accepted as his, seeing as he never recognized them, as he did Henry Fitzroy. Given how important it was to the king to prove that he was able to produce sons, if he had been at all sure that the Carey children were really his, he would have acknowledged them as such.

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Can you encorporate any of this? --Secisek (talk) 03:30, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Possible info box

Career (English Navy)
Name:	Mary Rose
Namesake:	The sister of Henry VIII
Launched:	1510
Homeport:	Portsmouth, England
General characteristics in the English navy
Displacement:	500 tons (700 after 1536)
Length:	89 feet
Beam:	39 feet
Propulsion:	sail
Crew:	200 sailors, 185 soldiers, and 30 gunners
Armament:	78 guns (91 after an upgrade in 1536)

Rjm at sleepers (talk) 07:14, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Tag & Assess 2008

Article reassessed and graded as start class. Referencing and appropriate inline citation guidelines not met. With appropriate citations and references, this article would easily qualify as B class if not higher. --dashiellx (talk) 20:01, 5 June 2008 (UTC)