Talk:Martin Landau

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"born to a Jewish family" is a racial stereotype. If the person is Jewish, just say it. ----me.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.187.180.63 (talkcontribs) .

1. Please do not remove text from an article without leaving a summary remark. 2. A person can be born to a Jewish family without being a praticing Jew him or herself. -- Dcflyer 03:07, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Yes you can be born to a Jewish family without being a practicing Jew, but this is just perpetuating a racial stereotype. What is the motivatation for promoting this racial stereotype? Are you obsessed with this? How about adding "born to a Christian family" to other articles? I don't understand what you mean by leaving a summary remark. My rationale should be clear. ----me—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.187.180.63 (talkcontribs) .

Providing factual information in an encylcopedia is far from perpetuating a racial stereotype. Also, what racial stereotype is being perpetuated? By saying "racial stereotype" do you mean Anti-Semetism? Take a look a some other Wikipedia articles: List of Jewish Americans, List of Jewish American actors, and List of British Jews. Do you think these promote "racial stereotypes" as well? This article is already tagged with the category, Category:Jewish American actors. Finally, let me address your point about not having "born to a Christian family" on other articles. The subjects of biographies on the English Wikipedia are overwhelming from the U.S., Canada, the UK, and Australia. The majority of individuals from these countries are Christian. In the minority are Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, and others. Pointing this out is simply providing factual information to the reader and cannot be at all compared to attaching a Star of David or a Red Crescent to these articles. -- Dcflyer 21:49, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

There are indeed racial stereotypes about Jewish families, just as there are stereotypes about Asian families and black families. Why don't you start adding "born to an Asian family" and "born to a black family" to articles, Dcflyer? Why is there an obsession with promoting a stereotype about Jewish families? There's nothing wrong with saying someone is Jewish, if they are Jewish. Just say it directly, don't promote the "Jewish family" stereotype. ----Signed, me. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.187.180.63 (talkcontribs) .

To start, unless someone's being identified as something other than human, it's possibly an ethnic stereotype, not a racial one. I also think 67.187.180.6 has a different definition of what that is.
An ethnic stereotype is a generalized representation of an ethnic group, composed of what are thought to be typical characteristics of members of the group. The use of ethnic stereotypes is usually demeaning even when the characteristics might be considered positive because it tends to discount the importance and uniqueness of the individual.
Ethnic stereotype.
Saying someone was born to Jewish parents acknowledges a fact, it doesn't promote a stereotype. As to a lack of citation, since converting to Judaism is a difficult process[1], it's highly likely that, since Mr. Landau is Jewish [2], he was born to Jewish parents. I don't see anything in the article that is trying to attach stereotypical behavior to Mr. Landau or his parents.
I don't understand your apparent belief that saying someone is Jewish is okay, while saying they were born of Jewish parents is perpetuating a stereotype. What stereotype would that be? How is "born to a Jewish family" a stereotype? Based on your reasoning, it would seem that saying someone is Jewish is perpetuating an ethnic stereotype. I don't understand why the former is a stereotype and the latter isn't. Also, please start identifying yourself on your posts. It's really easy, just type ~~~~ at the end of your comments it's right under the editing pane after Sign your name:. Chidom 00:16, 24 July 2006 (UTC)


Can someone provide more info on his friendships with Steve McQueen and James Dean? Mmortal03 (talk) 08:57, 26 February 2008 (UTC)